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Ballie51

posted on 5/11/06 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
Front to mid engine?

What is the feasibilty of taking a front wheel drive engine and mounting it mid engine rear wheel drive?
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StevieB

posted on 5/11/06 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
Very easy!

Have a look at www.sylva.co.uk

The Mojo and Riot use a fiesta zetec engine mid-mounted

Really cheap and excellent cars too, if you're looking for something along those lines.

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ReMan

posted on 5/11/06 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
Good
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Johnmor

posted on 5/11/06 at 10:25 PM Reply With Quote
Hawk Stratos

Hawk make a great Stratos replica with an Alfa v6 and the running gear from an Alfa 164.
rear whell drive mid engine and it uses the gear box and the whole subframe.

Dogs boll*ks



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TheGecko

posted on 5/11/06 at 10:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Sylva Mojo, GTM Rossa among others do exactly this.
And among those "others" are plenty of production cars: MR2, X1/9, Fiero, MG-F, Elise, Europa etc etc etc. Oh, and me

The big issues are:
- Suspension design. I'm re-using the (slightly modified) struts, but a de Dion would be straightforward or some variety of multi-link.

- Weight distribution. The engine, box, rear suspension assembly represents a significant fraction of the finished car's weight. Think hard about where other major masses (radiator/s, battery, spare, etc) will go to compensate.

- Gearchange. Choose a donor with a cable linkage. Longer cables are straightforward to have made. Rod linkages are much more troublesome to re-route.

Good luck,

Dominic

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RazMan

posted on 5/11/06 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
....... and the Aeon GT2





Cheers,
Raz

When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box

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Alan B

posted on 6/11/06 at 12:31 AM Reply With Quote
Nope...never been done.......
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dl_peabody

posted on 6/11/06 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
Alan B

Pish, shame on you. He need only research you to realize how do-able it is.

Very do-able....but you have to be smart about it. Design your own rear suspension and front suspension, weight distribution and a hundered other things (but do-able).

Did I mention Chasis too?

[Edited on 6/11/06 by dl_peabody]

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kb58

posted on 6/11/06 at 02:35 PM Reply With Quote
A perfect example is the FWD Toyota engine being used as mid-engine in the Lotus Elise.

I used a FWD Honda Prelude engine and installed it mid-engine in a Mini.





Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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tadltd

posted on 6/11/06 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kb58
A perfect example is the FWD Toyota engine being used as mid-engine in the Lotus Elise.




And in the Toyota MR2!

[Edited on 6/11/06 by tadltd]





Best Regards,

Steve.
www.turnerautosport.com

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John Bonnett

posted on 8/11/06 at 05:34 PM Reply With Quote
My trials car has a Peugeot 205gti engine and gearbox in the back complete with its sub-frame. The gearchange mechanism was very easy to run from the back to the front and amazingly the gear selection pattern is exactly the same as when the engine was in the front.

There are one or two pictures in my album if you are interested. the bodywork is nowhere near finished but we have used the car for a whole day without any mechanical or cooling problems.

John

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