Anman
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posted on 3/6/07 at 05:30 PM |
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Some design work
Hi,
Between developing my suspension, reading Milliken&Milliken and thinking about suitable donors I couldn't resist putting a design for my mid
engined build.
What do you think?
Greetz
Anman
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novacaine
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posted on 3/6/07 at 06:51 PM |
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looks nice, one problem, would be a huge pain in the arse to make the bodywork for it.
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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Anman
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posted on 3/6/07 at 07:20 PM |
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I know. Thing is i started out thinking i needed to keep it simple because i am going to hate doing lots of fibre glass body work. I wanted to design
it so it could be reasonably easy made with aluminium. However this is what i ended up with.
Can anyone point out the areas that are going to be a real pain with alu so i can change that. I am really scared of doing the whole body in fibre
glass
[Edited on 3/6/07 by Anman]
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Ivan
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posted on 3/6/07 at 08:01 PM |
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Nice - just one thing - if it's meant for the street I think you'll find the nose overhang way too long and low.
Don't be scared of doing a GRP body - it's not that difficult, just tedious.
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kb58
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posted on 3/6/07 at 11:52 PM |
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How about compromising? That is, buy a bodyshell already built. The shape you have there is similar to several CANAM-type cars. There's no shame
in choosing to save 100s of hours, especially if you fabricate everything that goes under it. This is essentially what I did with my mid-engine Mini -
started with the shell and worked my way inward.
[Edited on 6/3/07 by kb58]
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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iank
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posted on 4/6/07 at 07:05 AM |
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As above ^^^ the easiest way (and the way giving you the best chance of ever completing something so ambitious) is to buy the body.
You don't say which country you're in, but assuming the UK have a look at:
http://www.autotuneuk.com/can-am-m1.html
http://www.gdcars.com/gdt70/gdt70_index.htm
If you have you're heart set on building check out the posts from "Fred W B", "sgraber", "gttman",
"suparuss" and "Dick Bear" which will give you an idea on techniques and how much effort it involved.
Bashing that shape into aluminium will need a huge amount of skill and a large english wheel. "Trev D " and "907" are the men
to talk to about metal bashing of that magnitude.
Good luck whichever path you choose.
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Alan B
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posted on 4/6/07 at 12:20 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by iank
......If you have you're heart set on building check out the posts from "Fred W B", "sgraber", "gttman",
"suparuss" and "Dick Bear" which will give you an idea on techniques and how much effort it
involved...................................
Good luck whichever path you choose.
<Sulk>.......you didn't mention me...
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iank
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posted on 4/6/07 at 12:32 PM |
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Bugger, there's always one isn't there. Sorry add "Alan B" to ^^^^
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Alan B
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posted on 4/6/07 at 12:41 PM |
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And who says sulking doesn't work?
Cheers Iank
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Anman
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posted on 4/6/07 at 07:13 PM |
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Well, after giving it some more thought i decided to not push it to much for a first serious project. After looking around a Sylva Riot like design is
pretty nice and also reasonably easy to manufacture...
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gttman
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posted on 4/6/07 at 08:13 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Alan B
And who says sulking doesn't work?
Cheers Iank
Well sulked that man.....
BTW were in Florida are you, anywere near Miami?
Andygtt
Please redefine your limits
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Alan B
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posted on 4/6/07 at 08:22 PM |
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Near Miami.....?
In US terms..... yes
UK terms...... no
About 150 miles.....just over 2 hours depending on traffic...Straight run right up I-95..
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Syd Bridge
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posted on 5/6/07 at 08:32 AM |
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150 miles?2 hrs???
When did they lift the speed limit on the pike? Or I95?
I didn't think your little speed weapon would do that sort of speed. Yet!
Cheers,
Syd.
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procomp
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posted on 5/6/07 at 02:46 PM |
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Hi if interested i have the set of moulds for the original westfield SS that are no longer requierd. U2U sent.
body moulds brought by procomp. Moulds now FOR SALE.
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cheers matt
[Edited on 6/6/07 by procomp]
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gttman
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posted on 8/6/07 at 08:10 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Alan B
Near Miami.....?
In US terms..... yes
UK terms...... no
About 150 miles.....just over 2 hours depending on traffic...Straight run right up I-95..
shame as I have to be in Miami all next week and I'd have loved to have met up with you.
Andygtt
Please redefine your limits
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Alan B
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posted on 8/6/07 at 12:23 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by gttman
quote: Originally posted by Alan B
Near Miami.....?
In US terms..... yes
UK terms...... no
About 150 miles.....just over 2 hours depending on traffic...Straight run right up I-95..
shame as I have to be in Miami all next week and I'd have loved to have met up with you.
If you do find some time I'll be available any time. I'll U2U details.
Alan
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Anman
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posted on 11/8/07 at 08:37 PM |
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Ok, i am thinking about maybe buying a bodyshell. Although this might be slightly more complicated because i live in the netherlands and couldnt find
similar companies as the one you suggested.
Because i have no experience with building bodies i was wondering how difficult a body like the on in the picture below would be to make from alu.
tnx
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thomas4age
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posted on 11/8/07 at 09:12 PM |
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Hey Anman, (Adnan perhaps?)
That body wouldnt be to hard I think since it's all flat pieces rivited together, still it would require a load of work but would with the right
amount of time be doable.... appart from the naca ducts there's no curves in that body that require an english wheel. at least from what I can
tell from the piccie.
that thing can maybe be build on a Midtec chassis? speedon carworks have a midtec or 2 in stock (not on website) call with speedon dronten they might
be able to let you ake some measurments,
good chassis not very costly and easy to work on.
Grtz thomas
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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