Gakes
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| posted on 30/7/08 at 06:35 AM |
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Gassless mig, any good?? and some update pics
Anyone here used a gasless DIY Mig welder on a locost build?
And heres an update of my middy build:
 
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Lars
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| posted on 30/7/08 at 07:34 AM |
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Yes, would not touch it again. Now replaced with a gas one.
Why do you ask? From the picture it looks like you already have a welder.
Lars
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 30/7/08 at 07:49 AM |
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I have worn out 3 of them. They are quite good for small jobs outside, very portable without the gas bottle and very fast to get jobs done. Especially
good for doing exhaust repairs outside under a car when it’s windy. I recently did a repair to the digger on site and practically ended up with a tent
just to stop the wind bowing the gas shield away, damn annoying and that would not have been required if I was using gasless.
Their main downside is the much greater heat, welds that need cleaned of slag and inclusions much like a small arc welder. I would not recommend them
for doing a chassis, far too much heat.
[Edited on 30/7/08 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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panichat
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| posted on 30/7/08 at 10:32 AM |
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I think they are ok...
I have used a gasless mig for my chassis (as well as an arc welder for some parts).
With practice it is possible to do strong welds that look ok when they are cleaned up. With hindsight I wish I had invested in a decent quality
ordinary mig at the start of the build.
Dave
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Alan B
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| posted on 30/7/08 at 11:21 AM |
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Surely "MIG" welding without the gas would just be "M" welding?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 30/7/08 at 03:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
Surely "MIG" welding without the gas would just be "M" welding?
smarty pants
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 5/8/08 at 02:43 AM |
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Ive used a gassless, and they are good for small jobs, but tempramental i found. Ive just invested in a 160A TIG for the next build, but ive still
got to learn how to use it properly!!
There are a few plusses to TIG - It seems to be more diverse, and a lot cleaner!
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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Doug68
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| posted on 5/8/08 at 03:24 AM |
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I rented one once and now would avoid using one ever again!
If you are new to welding I think getting the best quality machine you can makes learning as easy as possible.
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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Minicooper
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| posted on 5/8/08 at 09:47 AM |
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I found gasless to be perfectly acceptable not quite as good a finish but hardly noticeable once painted or sealed, I also found welding with CO2 gas
to be pretty good as well, sorry to go against the flow but my mum always said I was special!
Cheers
David
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Kaspa
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 08:20 AM |
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reasons why not
1 to much heat.
2 poor penatration.
3 unsightly
4 fumes highly caslagenic
banned in many countries.
need i say more
kaspa
understeer= when you hit the wall front first
oversteer=when you hit the wall back first
HP= how fast you hit the wall
Torque= how far the wall moves when you hit it
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