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Just a quick couple of questions (such a thing!?)
JamesyCottony - 28/9/15 at 09:30 AM

No.1

With light dash switches I was thinking of using led rocker switches, so for side green led, dipped green led, main beam blue led and fog red led, they don't have symbols on but if I put pictograms stickers under the switches would this pass?

No.2

With my headlights it seems as though there isn't a "dipped" and "main". When touching the wires on the battery the same bulb just seems to get brighter with main beam, so I wouldn't need to wire so that when mains are on dipped stop do I?

Side note I am using Austin metro standard wiring loom

Thanks


Irony - 28/9/15 at 10:15 AM

I used rocker switches for my IVA. Passed with Vinyl symbols stuck underneath them. Designed the symbols and made them myself.

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britishtrident - 28/9/15 at 10:31 AM

Re headlights you have the earth connection wrong

This link might help http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/Lucaswirecode.htm


JamesyCottony - 28/9/15 at 10:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Re headlights you have the earth connection wrong

This link might help http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/Lucaswirecode.htm


What black to negative?


Mr Whippy - 28/9/15 at 11:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by JamesyCottony

No.2

With my headlights it seems as though there isn't a "dipped" and "main". When touching the wires on the battery the same bulb just seems to get brighter with main beam, so I wouldn't need to wire so that when mains are on dipped stop do I?

Side note I am using Austin metro standard wiring loom

Thanks


eh? your bulb has two filaments and 3 wires – dipped +, main + & earth -


JamesyCottony - 28/9/15 at 01:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by JamesyCottony

No.2

With my headlights it seems as though there isn't a "dipped" and "main". When touching the wires on the battery the same bulb just seems to get brighter with main beam, so I wouldn't need to wire so that when mains are on dipped stop do I?

Side note I am using Austin metro standard wiring loom

Thanks


eh? your bulb has two filaments and 3 wires – dipped +, main + & earth -


The light has 4 wires, Earth, dipped, main and side


adithorp - 28/9/15 at 03:54 PM

...but the headlight bulb has 3wires. Earth, head +ve, Main +ve.

If you connect the earth wire to the wrong terminal then you can get both fillaments on together giving the symptoms you describe. It'snot uncommon for people to wire the middle terminal on the bulb as earth by mistake... in fact it's common and I've even seem a major kit supplier do it.
However if what you mean is that it's possible to have the main beam on with the dip filament still on, then yes, you can but the bulb will overheat and blow pretty quickly; The dipped feed should be wired to go off when the main beam comes on to avoid this.


Mr Whippy - 28/9/15 at 09:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
...but the headlight bulb has 3wires. Earth, head +ve, Main +ve.

If you connect the earth wire to the wrong terminal then you can get both fillaments on together giving the symptoms you describe. It'snot uncommon for people to wire the middle terminal on the bulb as earth by mistake... in fact it's common and I've even seem a major kit supplier do it.
However if what you mean is that it's possible to have the main beam on with the dip filament still on, then yes, you can but the bulb will overheat and blow pretty quickly; The dipped feed should be wired to go off when the main beam comes on to avoid this.


yip quite correct


JamesyCottony - 29/9/15 at 06:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
...but the headlight bulb has 3wires. Earth, head +ve, Main +ve.

If you connect the earth wire to the wrong terminal then you can get both fillaments on together giving the symptoms you describe. It'snot uncommon for people to wire the middle terminal on the bulb as earth by mistake... in fact it's common and I've even seem a major kit supplier do it.
However if what you mean is that it's possible to have the main beam on with the dip filament still on, then yes, you can but the bulb will overheat and blow pretty quickly; The dipped feed should be wired to go off when the main beam comes on to avoid this.


I connected it straight to the battery so that is why it is doing that then I'm guessing. Yea I don't want the two on at the same time as I know it will blow the bulbs. Would the metro loom automatically turn off the dipped once the main is turned on then?


adithorp - 29/9/15 at 06:43 AM

Probably but you would have to study a wiring diagram to be sure.


JamesyCottony - 25/3/16 at 05:02 PM

Another Quick one maybe?

There are a whole bunch of wires that are main battery feed, unfused (Brown)

They have a loop fitting on the end but what would they connect to?

There is nothing that requires power over that side of the engine and nothing anywhere nearby that looks like it is laking power?










ken555 - 25/3/16 at 06:48 PM

Does it not go to the starter solenoid, + battery connection to supply power to the loom.


JamesyCottony - 25/3/16 at 06:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ken555
Does it not go to the starter solenoid, + battery connection to supply power to the loom.


One of the wires comes from the battery side already, and the starter coil already has, from the looks of it, power running to it?

EDIT:

Just had a look at google images of Metro engines and there are 2 wires coming off from the + of the battery terminal, so maybe it is......?

Battery is the other side of car though , ahh well, just have to extend it.

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snowy2 - 26/3/16 at 06:56 AM

to answer your questions..
1: Yes
2: No......your car needs to show a dip beam pattern that either deflects to the left or flat. the bulb needs to be correctly wired up.


snowy2 - 26/3/16 at 07:08 AM

one of the problems in reusing car wiring looms is "extra wires" and wires that are way to long for the job in hand.....
the solution is.....

Rewire the car from scratch, its easy and much nicer looking......

the connections you see above are likely because the Metro used only a few fuses (so not much scope for multiple connections) and some connections will need good permanent live supplies. they could have used one chunky wire or several and route them to where they wanted......which is likely not what you need (heated rear windows for example....)


JamesyCottony - 26/3/16 at 12:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snowy2
one of the problems in reusing car wiring looms is "extra wires" and wires that are way to long for the job in hand.....
the solution is.....

Rewire the car from scratch, its easy and much nicer looking......

the connections you see above are likely because the Metro used only a few fuses (so not much scope for multiple connections) and some connections will need good permanent live supplies. they could have used one chunky wire or several and route them to where they wanted......which is likely not what you need (heated rear windows for example....)


No going back now, I have spent much too long taking out unused wires haha, I have a whole carrier bag of ones taken out!!

As this wire connects straight to the battery, will this cable be thick enough for taking the current?

http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/single-core-thin-wall-cable-10mm2-70a.html

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JamesyCottony - 26/3/16 at 06:17 PM

Or would this even be enough?

http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/50-amp-single-core-thin-wall-auto-cable.html


JamesyCottony - 28/3/16 at 06:27 AM

Anyone?