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ash_hammond - 27/12/13 at 10:26 AM

Take your mind out of the gutter!

We need a new hoover as the old Dyson has finally stopped sucking. Big bang lots of smoke!

I was comparing the DC25 (£199) and the DC50 (£299) Dyson's at Argos that are both on offer.

The DC25 is cheaper and has 80 more airwatts (suction power) than the DC50.

What am i missing.. Why is the newer more expensive hoover on paper worse than the old one? I cannot see why the DC50 is more expensive other than its the new model and snobbery!


fesycresy - 27/12/13 at 10:42 AM

Don't get involved mate, it's woman's work


chrisspartan - 27/12/13 at 10:45 AM

Also in the market for a new Dyson - try this link:

Dyson Ebay Outlet

Seems to be some good prices.


Peteff - 27/12/13 at 10:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ash_hammondWhat am i missing.. Why is the newer more expensive hoover on paper worse than the old one? I cannot see why the DC50 is more expensive other than its the new model and snobbery!


Why are you looking at another Dyson ? You can buy something that does the job just as well for a third of the price.


geoff shep - 27/12/13 at 11:01 AM

quote:

What am i missing.. Why is the newer more expensive hoover on paper worse than the old one? I cannot see why the DC50 is more expensive other than its the new model and snobbery!



Isn't it because the DC50 is 'compact' - double radial cyclone or something and smaller.


theprisioner - 27/12/13 at 11:05 AM

I worked as a Odd Job Man for 8 years, usually tidied up with customers vacuum. I have to report that Dysons were a triumph of marketing over reality. 8/10 there was something wrong with them and the ergonomics of use were pish. Just my opinion of course!


ash_hammond - 27/12/13 at 11:13 AM

Apparently we live in a democratic house.... when she decided we do!

Is that just a guy on ebay or is that a genuine Dyson outlet? Those Dysons are only coming with a 2yrs warranty its 5yrs if its new.

I like Dysons, i know there are cheaper brands out there... just sticking to what i know.

I think you're correct, it is just the newer more compact model the DC50 and some new fancy tech to boost the price.

I cannot believe this hoover as taken sooo much thinking about!


benchmark51 - 27/12/13 at 11:14 AM

Snap! My Hoover Aquamaster passed away this weekend, after 26 years of good service.
Want another, stuff Dyson.


mds167 - 27/12/13 at 12:08 PM

If you like your Dyson How about contacting them for a service? £75 (I think) got me new brush bar, hose, wand, wand and filters. Basically a new machine....now running better than it had for two or three years
The engineer we had reckoned the 'old ones' were much better put together than the more recent models.


britishtrident - 27/12/13 at 12:11 PM

At my local council recycling tip Dysons out number any other vacuums by at least 4 to 1.

Justt buy a £50 Vax and get a new shiney one when the old one looks grubby.
The cheaper Vax models don't feel high quality but they could suck for Britain.


Slimy38 - 27/12/13 at 12:15 PM

We use a Henry, it's pretty much indestructable. I have sucked up all sorts of unpleasantness, and all it needed was a replacement bag.

However, I have also been told that Dysons can be easily reconditioned/repaired, with only a finite number of parts that need replacing. So all those people who bin them when they go faulty (and as BT said, there are a lot!!) it would be so much better to get them repaired.


ReMan - 27/12/13 at 12:20 PM

interested in this as our Dyson (bought at half price about 5 years ago), has been brilliant but is a bit tired now and our new dog is twice as hairy as the last one!
The "Which" report is quite good apparantly, I dont know if anyone here has access to it?


Slimy38 - 27/12/13 at 12:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
interested in this as our Dyson (bought at half price about 5 years ago), has been brilliant but is a bit tired now and our new dog is twice as hairy as the last one!
The "Which" report is quite good apparantly, I dont know if anyone here has access to it?


Yep, what would you like to see? Here's the top five;

Bosch
BSG8PRO1GB Home Professional
Mar 2008
£268.40
Best price found from 5 retailers
Compare prices
Carpet: 5 stars
Floorboards: 5 stars
Laminate floors: 5 stars
Walls and corners: 4 stars
82%
Best buy

Miele S8340 Ecoline Solution Miele
S8340 Ecoline Solution
Jul 2012
£230.00
Typical price -
what is this?
Carpet: 5 stars
Floorboards: 5 stars
Laminate floors: 5 stars
Walls and corners: 4 stars
80%
Best buy

Miele S8390 Silence Solution Miele
S8390 Silence Solution
Jul 2012
£205.90
Best price found from 6 retailers
Compare prices
Carpet: 5 stars
Floorboards: 5 stars
Laminate floors: 5 stars
Walls and corners: 4 stars
80%
Best buy

AEG UltraOne Pets AUO8840UKPT AEG
UltraOne Pets AUO8840UKPT
Sep 2012
£189.00
Typical price -
what is this?
Carpet: 5 stars
Floorboards: 5 stars
Laminate floors: 5 stars
Walls and corners: 4 stars
80%
Best buy

Miele S6290 Silence Miele
S6290 Silence
Mar 2011
£177.00
Best price found from 7 retailers
Compare prices
Carpet: 5 stars
Floorboards: 5 stars
Laminate floors: 5 stars
Walls and corners: 4 stars
79%
Best buy


The DC25 came top of the Dysons, but 22nd overall.

[Edited on 27/12/13 by Slimy38]


mark chandler - 27/12/13 at 12:54 PM

When ours went pop just got it a new motor and it went for another 5 years.


britishtrident - 27/12/13 at 01:05 PM

£270 Dyson last 5 years and cleans the carpet well.
£50 Vax last 5 years and sucks like Dyson.


theprisioner - 27/12/13 at 01:27 PM

The best vacuum I have ever bought is a Dewalt, I doubt you will get any brownie points from SWINBO tho.


morcus - 27/12/13 at 01:34 PM

Get yourself down to curries (If they still exist) and have a look at all the vacuum cleaners and have a play with them then see which one has the best sale price. Your not likely to get a good deal on a Dyson because everyone wants them so they don't need to discount them.

Personally, if you want to get a 'decent' (Read good name) model, I'd go for a Hoover or a Mielle (The later if you've got pets) but personally I'd get the cheapest one I thought I'd get away with, especially if it had a decent warrantee.


big-vee-twin - 27/12/13 at 01:42 PM

Get your self a Heny, way better than. Dyson.


omega0684 - 27/12/13 at 01:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
When ours went pop just got it a new motor and it went for another 5 years.


Ditto, i have replaced two motors in Dyson's one for us and one for a friend, £20 off ebay, both still going strong. they are dead simple to change to


Irony - 27/12/13 at 04:53 PM

Henry! Eight years and counting! I have even used him as a wall chaser extracter, orbital sander extracted and coal fire cleaner! Still going strong. I wouldnt buy anything else.


perksy - 27/12/13 at 04:53 PM

I forget the number of Dysons i've seen sparkies trying to fix over the years and most have ended up in the skip

Sorry but i'll never touch one, I think they are overpriced for what they are....

VAX 's seem to be pretty good


bigfoot4616 - 27/12/13 at 05:38 PM

my wife has a dyson dc07 which is about 10 years old. a few years ago the motor packed up. a dyson engineer came out for about
£75 as some one above mentioned, fitted a new motor and a few other bits and its as good as new.


[Edited on 27/12/13 by bigfoot4616]


ashg - 27/12/13 at 09:57 PM

we had two dysons they were shit. we now have a miele cat and dog, its is easily more than twice as powerful as the dysons.

p.s i have a henry in the garage and the miele is even more powerful than that. in fact the miele is so powerful it lifts the carpet up, but its fine as there is a dial to reduce the power if needed

[Edited on 27/12/2013 by ashg]


sdh2903 - 27/12/13 at 10:08 PM

"Walls and corners: 4 stars "

Who hoovers their bloody walls!!!!


ash_hammond - 29/12/13 at 09:16 AM

I made the purchase.

Went for the D25 in the end. Before popping to Argos I went into Currys/PC World.

The DC25 was the same price there as Argos and their tools were 1/2 price. The sales guy was helpful without trying to just bullsh1t me after i asked him some sensible yet informed questions. So i decided to spend my cash there.

It has the standard 5 yrs warranty, so by my logic I wont have to pay out for the next 5 years. Then it will get the £75ish service.

PS i never knew blokes could talk for 3 pages about House Hold Vacs :-D

Thanks

Ash


rusty nuts - 29/12/13 at 10:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
At my local council recycling tip Dysons out number any other vacuums by at least 4 to


Same at our local recycling center


will121 - 29/12/13 at 10:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
At my local council recycling tip Dysons out number any other vacuums by at least 4 to


Same at our local recycling center


Same could be said why in the 80's you saw more escorts in a local scrap yard than fiat's doesn't necessarily mean one better than the other, could just be that lot more Dyson's sold and eventually scrapped. We had our Dyson 14+ years generally when think its getting beyond its best just need a good clean up of filters and good as new again


twybrow - 29/12/13 at 11:37 AM

As others have said above, send it to Dyson. For your £75 they will repair any Dyson, including the parts. If it can not be repaired, they will send you a replacement. There is no good reason to see them thrown away as they are always repairable!


bigfoot4616 - 29/12/13 at 12:22 PM

we didn't have to send ours to them, they came to us.


Hellfire - 29/12/13 at 03:19 PM

I've got an original Dyson DC01 which I bought back in 1998 and it's still going strong..........

Phil


MikeRJ - 29/12/13 at 04:14 PM

We had an original DC01 for many years and it provided absolutely stirling service. However the motor finally went bang and since we then had a very fluffy cat in the house my wife went for a newer (at the time) Dyson, the DC33 'Animal'. Unfortunately it's not a patch on the original. It works adequately well in terms of dirt/dust removal but it's heavier, noisier and worst of all the "flexible" pipe for doing the stairs etc. is just beyond a joke - it is so stiff that it's basically unusable, and unsurprisingly the pipe split at the end after very little use.

Unless the newer ones have reverted the the durability and usability of the original, then we won't be getting another.

The only good thing about the 'Animal' was the vacuum powered brush attachment that came with it. I made an adapter to fit this to my shop vac (an old, beaten up Earlex Wet and Dry vac) and it's brilliant for cleaning car carpets.

[Edited on 29/12/13 by MikeRJ]