The policeman that dealt with a recent accident I was involved in (don't ask) was a really nice guy and really into his cars, we spent an hour in
the garage looking at the Roadster!
We had a discussion about policing and he was of the opinion that speed cameras are costing lives because the politicians have switched to policing by
camera instead of a living breathing police officer who can spot drunk/drugged drivers, the uninsured, defective vehicles etc... Police traffic
patrols have reduced by 60% over the last ten years
Police officers can also use disgression, something a camera can't.
This won't come as a surprise to you but the bottom line - as ever - is cash.
Police officers, dealing with ALL traffic offences, COST money, speed cameras, dealing only with speed, MAKE money.
Why does it seem that the only offence that is important to the politicians is speed?
Ask yourself who you'd prefer to share the road with? Someone driving 5mph over the limit or a drunk, drugged, unlicenced, uninsured driver in a
death trap car?
As long as he passes that speed camera at 29.9mph he's fine and that's why more people are dying on the roads despite the massive advances
in car safety.
So when someone tries to tell you that speed cameras save lives you can put them straight.
cheers
Chris
Perfect description of the problem.
I drive 50K miles + per year and was always on the look out for Federale on my tail. Now though I very rarely see a proper police patrol on the
motorway or main roads. But I do see alot more poorly loaded, badly driven, poorly maintained etc vehicles.
I think if they continue to take the stance that they are taking on speeding then they should be prepared to back it up with bobbies in cars to crack
down on the idiots on the road, the true accident causes.
I very rarely see accidents that are truely due to speed. Mainly they are people not able to read the road in front, lorries not able to stop in time
(but they are not speeding), poorly judged overtaking but once again they are not your speeders they are mr average driving average car doing average
speed.
OK I'll stop.
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
and that's why more people are dying on the roads despite the massive advances in car safety.
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
The policeman that dealt with a recent accident I was involved in (don't ask) was a really nice guy and really into his cars, we spent an hour in the garage looking at the Roadster!
We had a discussion about policing and he was of the opinion that speed cameras are costing lives because the politicians have switched to policing by camera instead of a living breathing police officer who can spot drunk/drugged drivers, the uninsured, defective vehicles etc... Police traffic patrols have reduced by 60% over the last ten years
Police officers can also use disgression, something a camera can't.
This won't come as a surprise to you but the bottom line - as ever - is cash.
Police officers, dealing with ALL traffic offences, COST money, speed cameras, dealing only with speed, MAKE money.
Why does it seem that the only offence that is important to the politicians is speed?
Ask yourself who you'd prefer to share the road with? Someone driving 5mph over the limit or a drunk, drugged, unlicenced, uninsured driver in a death trap car?
As long as he passes that speed camera at 29.9mph he's fine and that's why more people are dying on the roads despite the massive advances in car safety.
So when someone tries to tell you that speed cameras save lives you can put them straight.
cheers
Chris
Everyone around here seems to have forgotten what indicators are for
what you do is...
Take a 9" nail and mount it vertically in the middle of the steering wheel, see how fast people drive then!
- Ash
I get really fed up with endless rants about speed cameras, but I thought that was very well written!
Just got to convince the older, well-off, non driving population of Chipping Arsehole and other such places that the shiny new camera thay go out and
polish for the council every sunday morning is pointless.
Ed.
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
And the fact that becasue cars are safer, people will take more risks, drive faster in the believe that they will be safe?
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
The policeman that dealt with a recent accident I was involved in (don't ask) was a really nice guy and really into his cars, we spent an hour in the garage looking at the Roadster!
We had a discussion about policing and he was of the opinion that speed cameras are costing lives because the politicians have switched to policing by camera instead of a living breathing police officer who can spot drunk/drugged drivers, the uninsured, defective vehicles etc... Police traffic patrols have reduced by 60% over the last ten years
Police officers can also use disgression, something a camera can't.
This won't come as a surprise to you but the bottom line - as ever - is cash.
Police officers, dealing with ALL traffic offences, COST money, speed cameras, dealing only with speed, MAKE money.
Why does it seem that the only offence that is important to the politicians is speed?
Ask yourself who you'd prefer to share the road with? Someone driving 5mph over the limit or a drunk, drugged, unlicenced, uninsured driver in a death trap car?
As long as he passes that speed camera at 29.9mph he's fine and that's why more people are dying on the roads despite the massive advances in car safety.
So when someone tries to tell you that speed cameras save lives you can put them straight.
cheers
Chris
Have alook here
http://www.cobraclub.com/forum/general-cobra-discussion/24212-speed-kills-does.html
I also think there should be a minimun speed limit. Theres loads of people driving at 50 on a dual carridgeway. If u come upon them doing 70 yoku
are very quickly upon them. When u see a truck u know it should be doing 56 but when u see a car u expect it to be doing 70.
Il probably get ranted for saying this but i think if your not happy doing the speed limit of the road your obviously not comfortable driving so you
shouldnt be on the road. 60 should be the minimum for cars that should be doing 70 and 50 for the 60 roads.
quote:
Originally posted by chockymonster
Ban driver aids, stop trying to do the driver's job and just let us get on with it.
quote:
Originally posted by Danozeman
60 should be the minimum for cars that should be doing 70 and 50 for the 60 roads.
Boll**KS
No one's going to force me to drive at 70 if I don't feel like it. I try to drive with consideration for others but so should you.
If I'm not in a hurry, enjoying the drive going for economy or whatever, you should have consideration for me. Just because you can drive at 70,
it doesn't mean you have to.
Get up earlier
Just in case this looks like a racist comment, it isn't.
But in the area I live in there are loads of young asian drivers who take ridiculous liberties whilst driving, really winds me up. Obviously they get
away with it cos there aren't any cops to spot them.
Could be worse though, they could be at home making bombs.....
Actually they're doing that as well!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by robinj66
Have alook here
http://www.cobraclub.com/forum/general-cobra-discussion/24212-speed-kills-does.html
But what was the accident Chris.
[Edited on 16/11/07 by roadrunner]
quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
Boll**KS
No one's going to force me to drive at 70 if I don't feel like it. I try to drive with consideration for others but so should you.
If I'm not in a hurry, enjoying the drive going for economy or whatever, you should have consideration for me. Just because you can drive at 70, it doesn't mean you have to.
Get up earlier
Me and the wife had a twenty minute drive to Scunthorpe this afternoon, i know, exciting is'nt it, anyway, most of the journey is a national limit, but this did'nt stop one driver doing 40, the lady behind tried to pass a couple of times, but she did'nt have the ability or the skills to overtake safely, pulling out twice onto oncoming traffic, in the end she gave up, it probably made her late to pick her kids up from school, just because some one had all day to do a twenty minute journey.
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
But what was the accident Chris.
I've often wondered - if the authorities are serious about road deaths why not insist that all cars have full roll cages and 5 point safety harnesses and all drivers wear crash helmets - Oh - and maybe have pillows strapped to the front bumper.
" but she did'nt have the ability or the skills to overtake safely, pulling out twice onto oncoming traffic, in the end she gave up, it
probably made her late to pick her kids up from school "
So this woman, who didn't have the skills to overtake with a 20mph margin of speed should have been driving at 60 ?
Who did Danozeman say shouldn't be on the road ?
Perhaps it was just as well she was late - her kids maybe lived that much longer.
Speed limits are maxima not targets.
[Edited on 16/11/07 by Macbeast]
quote:
But clearly speed was a factor in your crash Chris, if you hadn't been moving then the crash would not have happened
maybe a blanket speed limit of 0mph is needed, although i think at certain times of the day, they've got that sorted too.