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| posted on 4/3/08 at 11:21 PM |
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Truth is, we haven't planed that far yet.
It could exit as a slash cut bend in front of the rear wheel....
Or maybe as a thinner, longer, oval under the sill. (squashed l/r bend)
Paul G
Didn't see your edit. Yes it is, but the manifold may change
[Edited on 4/3/08 by 907]
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 01:01 AM |
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One thing to consider, on the Stylus Owners club website all owners with side exit pipes have cooling holes or slots cut in the sills to aid cooling
and none of them use exhaust wrap anywhere on the system for the reasons already suggested. I understand that at least one Fury has gone up in smoke
where the exhaust was too close and too hot for the bodywork.
Keith
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Delinquent
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 10:20 AM |
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Surely if you are running them down the inside of the sill you'd just have an open bottom or ducted air down inside the sill?
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DIY Si
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 10:53 AM |
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That's part of the problem though, given that you have full doors, having an open bottom could be a bit fiddly and I'd not want to cut
vents into the indent above the sills. Although it may be possible to draw air in from the engine bay, or have ducts from the outer grills under the
nose to the sills/silencer. Also because I'm a bit awkward, I'd like a full length under tray. 
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Guinness
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 11:28 AM |
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I think the McLaren Merc / Toniq R exhausts just behind the front wheels look brilliant.
Think of the savings in terms of weight / steel / cost of the exhaust system!
Mike
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DIY Si
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 03:21 PM |
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It could be worth a look, but where would the silencers go? Straight pipes might be a touch loud when they're that short! They'd only be a
foot or two long at best!
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Puk
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 05:54 PM |
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How about a motorcycle silencer? They are pretty compact. A 1litre bike running at 12k RPM will be passing the same volume of gas as a 2 liter car
motor at 6k. There must be more to it than that though - any one have a more informed view?
Before you judge a guy, walk a mile in his shoes. Then when you judge him, you're a mile a way and you've nicked his shoes.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 07:04 PM |
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It might work for my plans, as I'm planning on a V6, so I could have one on each side, so each silencer would only have to deal with 1.5 litres
at 6,500 rpm. Although as you say, it is a little more complicated than that. HHmmmm, I wonder what an Alfa V6 would sound like through two bike cans?
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Puk
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 08:49 PM |
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It'll sound brilliant - and you won't have to be worrying about the rest of the Alfa turning into tin work fodder
Before you judge a guy, walk a mile in his shoes. Then when you judge him, you're a mile a way and you've nicked his shoes.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 5/3/08 at 10:54 PM |
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I don't have the Alfa yet. In fact I might never have a whole one! I just need the engine and gubbins to make it run, although I'm sorely
tempted by TB's and megasquirt. I too think it'll sound lovely, but the plumbing could end up being a PITA.
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Puk
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| posted on 6/3/08 at 07:10 AM |
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I've had a couple - an old RWD GTV6 which got lighter as it aged - mainly because bits kept rusting away! And a modern FWD GTV6 - great engine
and it didn't rust. But the handling was a bit ponderous - all that weight up the front I guess. The motors are beauties but thirsty and
I'm not sure that a modern Ford V6 isn't actually a better option (if its not having to drag a Mondeo around with it).
Before you judge a guy, walk a mile in his shoes. Then when you judge him, you're a mile a way and you've nicked his shoes.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 6/3/08 at 11:32 AM |
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Ah, but the Alfa sounds nicer! Although it is more expensive and probably a bit thirstier. Oh, and it looks nice and shiny!
Also, I think playing about with the engine is a bit easier, as it has sensible inlet ports, rather than the 12 that there are on the ford V6. And
there are various upgrade paths, starting at the 2.5 12 valve and going up to the 3.2 24 valve or bigger should I wish.
[Edited on 6/3/08 by DIY Si]
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:05 PM |
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Hi chaps
Im looking forward to the alfa power Si, (it means i can copy what you do. )
I do think it would be easier to go the ford root. The last of the Scorpios had a rather tasty Cosworth tweeked V6 with 204 bhp as standard. You see
a few on ebay quite cheap.
Anyway, here is a pic of the engine bay.
The chassis you can see is the standard locost and the engine is a Zetec.
It give you a good idea of the room available under there.
Gaz
 
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:06 PM |
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some more pics of todays work
 
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:07 PM |
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it is getting there
 
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:09 PM |
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and finaly, worm eye view.
I am still thinking about the exhaust. Dont worry i am taking everything that you all suggest in.
Thanks guys, and I hope to see you at the Detling Show.
Gaz
 
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:18 PM |
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You don't want the old Essex V6, it weighs as much as a house since it's all iron! The Alfa is all ally and I prefer the sound! Although
there is a bolt on gear box for the older ford V6's. There is one for the new ally Ford V6, but it comes from a Jaguar, so will be more than a
few bob!
Gaz, the pic with the chassis showing, is that how it'll look, or will the chassis be +4 at the front end?
Oh, ps, very good job there gaz, looking very, very 
Oh, are Aeon still unsure about the front light set up? When I spoke to someone there, don't know who, they said they were probably looking at
changing them because of the crease across the lens? Would it be possible to use the S2 Elise light pod to keep the shape?
[Edited on 8/3/08 by DIY Si]
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:22 PM |
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Sorry, it will be a plus 4.
I havent modded the chassis model. It still gives a good idea
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:24 PM |
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That's cool, means I have plenty of space for the wider 24v V6! Oh, see edits above, I have more questions!
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:32 PM |
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The crease will be blended out on the lights, wilst making the model the crease is nice to measure from.
I doubt that the elise lights will blend into the body.
I think it will work out cheaper to do it ourselves and it wont stand out as being a part from another car.
Gaz
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:34 PM |
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Oh, I quite like that bit.  Does that mean the lights/outer cover will come from Aeon, or be a more common kit car type part?
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:39 PM |
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They will only blend out in the middle, in front of the light unit. It really wont effect the look at all. so dont worry.
You can always rive me a ring with any questions, i will u2u u with my number.
Gaz
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 05:46 PM |
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I'll give you a ring in a minute then, but be prepared for a chat, once started on a car related subject I often find it hard to stop!
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 07:10 PM |
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as requested, a black one
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/3/08 at 07:16 PM |
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Oh, I do like that! Cheers for that, I now have a new picture to vie with the Aston race car pic for my desktop background. HHhmmmm, shiny!
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