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SteveWallace

posted on 20/4/10 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
Engine Choices

The Viento build is going well (pics to follow another day), if a bit slowly due to the rest of my life getting in the way.

I am a long way off getting to the engine (I have a 3.5 V8 in the back of the garage), However, I have been browsing e-bay and there seems to be quite a lot of cheap straight 6 Jag engines around.

Looking on Wiki, these seem to have a lot of power and I was wondering why they don't seem to appear in kit cars. Presumable they will fit in a Viento.

Just idle speculation really. By the way, I will be at Stoneleigh on the Monday at least so looking forward to seeing you all there.

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Paul TigerB6

posted on 20/4/10 at 08:03 PM Reply With Quote
Because they weigh even more than a Pinto.................. so much they come with their own gravitational field!!!

I've seen a few in D-type replicas, SS100's etc. Gonna be pretty expensive to rebuild if they need it. Better with a BWM straight six i'd say if you want to go for 6-cyl (Speedy wont agree though )

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COREdevelopments

posted on 20/4/10 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
Try and source a lexus v8 or toyota v6. should be fun but bit expensive though. Or just use your current v8 as you already have it.

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cd.thomson

posted on 20/4/10 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
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speedyxjs

posted on 21/4/10 at 07:05 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
(Speedy wont agree though )


Damn right!





How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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MakeEverything

posted on 21/4/10 at 07:10 AM Reply With Quote
Go for something main stream and cheap to rebuild and repair / replace. The jag ones are costly to rebuild, as are BMW, lexus and VAG.

Ford parts seem the cheapest, though the parts for mine are a tthe top end of the price list!! - over £200 for a gasket set etc.

ETA: The rover V8 stuff is cheaper still, caused by years of abuse in hotrods, street rods and custom cars etc. You can also get some very good performance parts for the Rover V8.

All IMO of course.

[Edited on 21-4-10 by MakeEverything]





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speedyxjs

posted on 21/4/10 at 07:35 AM Reply With Quote
But when the jag engine goes, you just buy a bigger one for £80





How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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turbodisplay

posted on 21/4/10 at 08:05 AM Reply With Quote
Lexus V8 is the best engine, cheap reliable.
Early v8 had six bolt mains, can produce 500hp with turbos, no internal mods.

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wilkingj

posted on 21/4/10 at 10:00 AM Reply With Quote
Any V8 will have double the exhaust and manifold costs.
However, you cant beat a V8 for that lurverly burbling sound.

In hindsight, a Nice 6 pot engine is a second best to a V8.
A Nissan Skyline engine would go very well, as would the Toyota Supra (Supra has already been factory fitted by the Old Luego team)

6pot BMW has been done by Luego as well.
A M5 engine would fly in a Viento.

Still the RV8 is a nice engine, and not that heavy. I get 26mpg at a steady 70 on the motorway / main roads, and considerably less when driving it in FUN mode
I hind sight, I would have fitted a Ford gearbox, as they are more available and certainly cheaper than a LT77 box if you can find a good one.

Just my 2d's worth.





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bimbleuk

posted on 21/4/10 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by turbodisplay
Lexus V8 is the best engine, cheap reliable.
Early v8 had six bolt mains, can produce 500hp with turbos, no internal mods.

Darren


They are great engines for the price they appear on Ebay. There always a steady supply of donor Soarers as well for less than a £1K.

Two reasons why I went for an LS1 instead. They don't come with manuals so you need a conversion kit. They didn't provide the power I was after in stock form without forced induction.

[Edited on 21-4-10 by bimbleuk]

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Irony

posted on 21/4/10 at 11:03 AM Reply With Quote
Are the Jag enignes a iron block? I have been lugging RV8's around for ages regarding my build and the ally blocks are heavy enough. I dread to think how much a cast iron big block is.

I can just managed to stagger along with a RV8 Ally block. In fact I have to worthless 3.5 RV8 blocks. I am thinking of a eight way plant pot.






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SteveWallace

posted on 21/4/10 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the thoughts. I got the Rover V8 as part of a deal with Luego when I bought the kit and according to my research its about 165BHP standard. I want something around 200BHP so I am leaning towards either

i) new cams and other bits for the V8, or

ii) I quite like the idea of a BMW 2.8 (192BHP unmodified) and then swapping the head for an M50 2.5 at a later date to add perhaps 10% more power. They are not that cheap on e-bay and I know to avoid the ones with the sulphur problem. But as pointed out elsewhere I would save by not doubling up on the exhaust system. Also, it would be different as the only other one that I know of is the Luego one.

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Benzine

posted on 21/4/10 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
this thread needs moar volvo





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bj928

posted on 22/4/10 at 04:09 AM Reply With Quote
if all you want is cheap 200bhp then 24v v6 cosworth, rev well, cheap, and now easy cheap T5 gearbox fitting thanks to the americans, what more could u want, the 24v cosworth could easily see about 230bhp+ with BOB cams and an aftermarket ecu, or the v6 jag engine and manual box out of an S-Type jag, basicly its an ST220 mondeo engine pushing 241bhp and set up with a manual box and rear drive.
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alexg1965

posted on 22/4/10 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
I had a stage 1 4 cyl cosworth turbo in my Velocity which was jolly good fun until I hit a manhole cover.
And if you buy a secondhand cossie you get the gearbox, LSD, rear end, loom, etc and then you can sell all the other bits on Ebay

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dlatch

posted on 25/4/10 at 09:55 AM Reply With Quote
if you have the room in the engine bay i really think the E36 & E34 bmw's are the ideal donors these days plenty about and cheap now tin worm is coming through.

all range of egines available from 2.5 straight 6 upto the V8 and even V12 if your really brave

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jollygreengiant

posted on 26/4/10 at 05:05 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dlatch
if you have the room in the engine bay ........
all range of egines available from 2.5 straight 6 upto the V8 and even V12 if your really brave


We are talking about a Luego Viento here, if a V10 fits.........

as for choices linky about the only one you couldn't fit would be the 'proper' boat engine and the Sabre, although the latter would be a serious challenge.





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