DIY Si
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 posted on 10/9/10 at 05:55 PM |
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How to make MIG welder spool smoothyl
Evening all.
Now that I've finally gotten myself a reactive mask, I am now struggling to get my SIP Migmate Turbo 130 to spool out the wire smoothly. This is
now getting really annoying as it keeps stopping and starting as the torch moves.
I'm currently running a 5kg 0.8mm reel and the welder is standard.
Is there anything I can do to improve it? Is there a better liner and torch set up that I can get cheaply? Or is it better to try and upgrade to a
better MIG altogether?
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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big_wasa
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:05 PM |
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You just want a new linear and nip the roller up as much as it will go.
A metal one transformed mine.
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iank
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:05 PM |
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Worth having a chat with welduk
They sell this http://www.welduk.com/Details.asp?ProductID=607 so it seems the shoddy feed mechanism is something all SIPs suffer from.
Though £7+p&p is a bit much for a bit of bent steel, something to home fabricate?
[Edited on 10/9/10 by iank]
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jacko
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:08 PM |
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1 thing to check is that the tip is nipped up tight
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britishtrident
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:08 PM |
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Sip ---- "nuff said"
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
You just want a new linear and nip the roller up as much as it will go.
A metal one transformed mine.
Ditto. Saved mine from the skip with a new liner. I was going to smash it up with a sledge hammer before i fitted it. Now it runs quite well.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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DIY Si
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Sip ---- "nuff said"
I know, but it was all I could afford at the time. And now I've got it, I'd rather make it work than bin it.
Any links or thing to look for when getting a metal liner for it? I'll have a go at bending the bit of metal up, as I had noticed tonight that
the top roller sits wonky compared to the bottom one.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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loggyboy
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:48 PM |
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Cheap option is to use 0.6 wire. Ive been using it for years and works very well.
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l0rd
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:48 PM |
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when i did my welding course, one of my problems was that i was too big to work in the small confined area where we did our practice and the feed pipe
was bend enough to annoy me with similar problems.
I ended up puting the feed pipe over my elbow trying to make it a bit more straight and that was prety much it. Spot on welds after that.
Obviously a new tip can make wonders as well as ours were abused from the learners and most of the times, we had to unweld the wire from the tip.
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brianthemagical
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 06:55 PM |
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Have a look at the mig forum.
It pretty much boils down to a relay and some caps.
Do you find the wire feed has to be in a sweet spot? The weld is somewhat ripply when it shouldn't be? There is pretty poor burn back/the wire
protudes when releasing the trigger?
I was shocked at the difference it made. No need for extra power supplies or anything.
Saying that, i was welding last night and the house lights were diming, which is never going to help.
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T66
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 07:13 PM |
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The SIP feed isnt so good, I ran a SIP 150 to restore my Lada (Yes Lada)
It will not be happy with 5kg reels.
It says so on the tin, but stay with the small spools.
A metal liner will help, as the SIP comes a s standard with a pap plastic one. If its nicked inside you will have bother.
I have moved onto a Clarke 195 and much prefer the Clarke to the SIP.
I weld my Lada (Yes Lada) quite often, if your not doing too much with it the the SIP will last ok. Mine did ok after completely replacing floors and
sills in the Lada (Yes Lada)
However I wouldnt buy another...
If I can help you any more , ask....
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Bigheppy
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 07:16 PM |
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Curtain wire can be used as a liner the plastic coating had to be removed to fit into the torch on my cebora 130. And its cheap. 
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 07:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bigheppy
Curtain wire can be used as a liner the plastic coating had to be removed to fit into the torch on my cebora 130. And its cheap.
Top Tip, and Locost too. Thanks.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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RAYLEE29
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 08:03 PM |
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Hi, also worth checking the wire hasnt gone rusty if you havent used it for a while 
Ray
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 08:14 PM |
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See here!
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=142632
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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MikeR
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 08:14 PM |
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You may want to look at this as well,
http://www.welduk.com/Details.asp?ProductID=607
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iank
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 08:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
You may want to look at this as well,
http://www.welduk.com/Details.asp?ProductID=607
*cough* 2nd reply 
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 09:20 PM |
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aaaah, this is a good idea.
Might try this with mine.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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loggyboy
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 09:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
aaaah, this is a good idea.
Might try this with mine.
Not always, having too much grip can cause the wire to kink and bundle before going in to the liner if you hit an area with a bad earth.
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iank
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 09:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
aaaah, this is a good idea.
Might try this with mine.
Not always, having too much grip can cause the wire to kink and bundle before going in to the liner if you hit an area with a bad earth.
On the SIP the idea is to keep the top wheel running straight.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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RazMan
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 10:40 PM |
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My SIP 160 wire feed was very unreliable until I replaced the plastic liner for a steel one and changed to 0.6mm wire. As long as I keep the torch
liner as straight as possible with just gentle curves, it's as good as gold now.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Peteff
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| posted on 10/9/10 at 11:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
You just want a new linear and nip the roller up as much as it will go.
A metal one transformed mine.
You should be able to stop the wire by pinching it between finger and thumb. If it's too tight it crushes the wire and causes a lot of dust in
the liner, can also cause bird nesting inside if the wire sticks at the gun.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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v8kid
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| posted on 11/9/10 at 12:17 AM |
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I hooked up a laptop power supply to the drive motor electrics 6 months ago in addition to the brace.
Details on various welding sites.
Works well and is cheap
You'd be surprised how quickly the sales people at B&Q try and assist you after ignoring you for the past 15 minutes when you try and start a
chainsaw
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 11/9/10 at 07:56 AM |
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Glad to see it's a common issue and not just my bad luck. I have temporarily fixed mine with a block of wood jammed up lightly under the lower
roller housing, keeps the rollers straight and certainly helps.
But I will be making one of the 'cheap' (not!) strips of steel to make a better, less heath robinson affair
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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02GF74
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| posted on 11/9/10 at 09:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bigheppy
Curtain wire can be used as a liner the plastic coating had to be removed to fit into the torch on my cebora 130. And its cheap.
errrmmmmmm, without looking, I bet that is larger diameter so it may be more difficult to push trhough the hose.
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