DarrenW
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 posted on 20/8/07 at 03:33 PM |
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Boggs work of art
Got manifold today. Very happy. They have done me a shallow version so filter exits bonnet in a good place (hopefully!).
 
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DarrenW
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 03:34 PM |
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..... and also a TPS bracket. Mac#1 are sending me a throttle cable tonight so should be able to get on with fitting as soon as ive finished
landscaping back garden.
 
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jacko
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 03:39 PM |
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Very nice Darren boggs make a nice job .
How was the holiday
Graham
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oldmanmille
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 03:40 PM |
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How long did it take you to get them back from Bogg's?
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worX
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 03:48 PM |
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Look good Darren...
Steve
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DarrenW
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 03:50 PM |
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It took 4 weeks ish. Wasnt supposed to be ready until tomorrow but i got the call last Thursday so happy with that.
Holiday was fair to poor. Cannot recommend Alcudia to anyone (especially Hotel Alcudia). Great for the kids, fantastic beach but the resort was poor
(and we were in the Port end which is supposed to be nicer - didnt bother going into the main tacky end). Porto Pollenca (spelling?) was nicer so went
there for 2 days. As soon as we got home we bought a tent so we can have weekends away. Been to Runswick bay this weekend - great apart from weather.
Might try Alnwick or Coniston next.
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indykid
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 04:04 PM |
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4 weeks?
that's a damn sight better than the 11 weeks i ended up waiting! suppose i was told 4 originally though.........
did they come with the blue silicone hose darren?
have they just changed supplier, or is this admission that the green hose isn't up to the job i wonder?
damn pretty manifolds though aren't they?
tom
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skippad
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 04:09 PM |
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That manifold looks the dogs B's!
Have u got all the ecu side sorted then?
Should give yer a few more ponies and smoother running eh!
When is the next meeting of the new club?
Theres also a trackday at teesside next monday 26th do u fancy goin?
Dave
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DarrenW
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 04:13 PM |
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i supplied the carbs and hose im afraid. I saw the green stuff while i was there.
Ignition ECU seems to be performing well, albeit it in 2D mode at present - hence getting TPS bracket as part of the manifold.
i wont be able to make 26th. Too much going on at home. I think next new North meet is at Sutton under Whitestonecliffe on 5th Sept. Im having root
canal work done that day so probs wont make that either.
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Pdlewis
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 04:35 PM |
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Wow now thats a work of art!! when are you taking the trip to have them sorted on the rollers?
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 04:47 PM |
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how are boggs making the runners?
anyone know
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 05:43 PM |
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Cut and shut the tubes IIRC. Which is nasty...
Dave
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 08:39 PM |
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Is it particulary difficult to re-space bike carbs? Just thinking it would avoid the sharp bends in the outer runners, which would make them easier
to fabricate and more even flow between cylinders.
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Pdlewis
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 09:31 PM |
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I think so are easier to respace than others as i think the ZZR fuel rail is done using rubber pipe so easy to change where as the R1 have the fuel
rail intergrated into the body of the carb
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DarrenW
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| posted on 20/8/07 at 09:53 PM |
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The tubes maybe cut and shut (i have no idea if they are or not) but they are nice and smooth both inside and out. Im very happy with their work.
Looks right. I maybe could have respaced the carbs but they have been tricky enough so far as it is (fitting air filter back plate etc).
Does anyone fancy swapping a 100mm challenger element for 60 or 75mm one?
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DarrenW
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 08:24 AM |
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They look better on the car. 1st pic with air filter on.
 
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DarrenW
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 08:27 AM |
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2nd pic with filter off. As you can see the trumpets only just clear the bonnet line. i can get a new filter element for this at 75mm thick but again
it will require large cut out in bonnet. There is also a 50mm element available but this will require the trumpets to be cut down a bit as they stick
out approx 65mm. Do you think this will be a problem (just one end on will need to be cut - not the full trumpet)?
The elements are approx £45 each, however the new clips are £7 per pair and i will need 3 pair. Id consider a swap though if anyone in grass tracking
circles etc wants a 100mm element.
[Edited on 21/8/07 by DarrenW]
 
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Peteff
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 09:47 AM |
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I can't see a problem.
Is everyone in search of the ideal solution and unwilling to compromise a little bit? There are millions of cars running round with less than perfect
induction systems and no one worries a bit about them as long as they start and run.
 if you know what I mean. If I'd made/bought something that
looked like that I would be highly delighted and it will improve his output after it's set up.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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supercat
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 02:43 PM |
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Darren - slightly OT but what have you got in the dizzy place? Is it just a dizzy with the top taken off or something else?
Cheers,
James
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DarrenW
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 02:52 PM |
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I cant find a pic but its basically an old dizzy. Ive left the main upstand in tact as this has bronze bearings top and bottom. Ive then cut the ali
top off that normally houses the points and rotor arm etc and shortened the shaft. It does weep a tiny amount of oil but nothing significant. I may
try and find a top that fits and bond it on later (its also a cover over the rotating shaft)
There are some more inventive solutions / pics on the site if you do a search. Thesnake posted the last one in the last few days, robocog another.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 03:08 PM |
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Im surprised people have made comments about the runners etc without seeing the finished article. They all have a similar bend and as Pete says a lot
better than some proprietary and OE solutions. The pic doesnt quite show the full picture. All of the runners are nice and smooth internally so its
not just a shiny manifold. Im pretty sure that for general use the differences will make little difference to how the car runs. Sure, if you are in
pursuit of pure perfection and a race beating result then it isnt for you but i guess the perfect manifold will be many times more expensive and
involve a flow bench to make with guarantee. Im satisfied that when jetted up and correctly set they will be far better than the std carb and
comparable to webers. Ok - i know we could get into a debate about if bike carbs are the most suitable alternative for a car engine due to revs and
load characteristics etc but this is locostbuilders. I didnt have £500 to £900 for decent twin webers and if i did would probs have gone for injection
anyway. Some interesting comments made all the same.
Ill not comment on the final outcome until ive had the car out on the road and back to Boggs for jetting etc. Its taken me ages to get this far so
probs best not to hold your breath in anticipation
Last conundrum is should i cut the bonnet and keep the 'good for 500bhp overkill 100mm thick K&N challenger airbox' or get a thinner
50mm element and shave a bit off the trumpets (approx £65 for new element and clips assuming i can find a 50mm replacement). At least i can get it
running for now without filter and go for a drive when the time comes. Fitting a new foam dome filter is out as ive bonded the challenger backplate to
the kawasaki trumplet backplate so will lose th etrumpets (and i dont have enough pocket money unless someone has one cheap).
Reading the airbox thread i could make solid sides in place of the element at a thickness that suits me and fit a remote filter but not sure how to do
this or where to get cost effective cone filters from. Also it may cause issues i dont want.
[Edited on 21/8/07 by DarrenW]
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Andy D
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 03:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
2nd pic with filter off. As you can see the trumpets only just clear the bonnet line. i can get a new filter element for this at 75mm thick but again
it will require large cut out in bonnet. There is also a 50mm element available but this will require the trumpets to be cut down a bit as they stick
out approx 65mm. Do you think this will be a problem (just one end on will need to be cut - not the full trumpet)?
The elements are approx £45 each, however the new clips are £7 per pair and i will need 3 pair. Id consider a swap though if anyone in grass tracking
circles etc wants a 100mm element.
[Edited on 21/8/07 by DarrenW]
Looking good Darren, but you could have polished your shoes!
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DarrenW
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 03:48 PM |
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Very good point Andrew. They are my Prada garage shoes as well.
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jacko
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 05:32 PM |
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Darren if the filter is going to be oK in the wet weather [ i dont know what the filter is made off ] then i would use the one you have if it was me
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How about putting a bonnet bulge over the filter
Graham
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 21/8/07 at 06:53 PM |
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I've seen them and I have one; they're still horrible. They're also the reason why I decided to start making my own and refuse to
make them in the same style as theirs. The effort involved in making those runners is far greater than the effort required to space the carbs.
Dave
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