hobzy
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 05:52 PM |
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What to look for when buying a BEC?
What are the key things to look for/ask about when looking at a s'hand BEC? As every one is so different even if made on the same chassis are
there specific things one should check for?
Seen this one in particular (sorry if its someone on here - if it is I'll remove it so not to discuss it specifically):
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/581647.htm
but its in middlesborough, so I'd like to get all the relevant info before I commit to driving all the way there from Portsmouth!
Appreciation in advance... 
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Wadders
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 06:07 PM |
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sorry if its someone's on here
but would have to question a few of the details.
AFAIK 'Indy' is short for independent, as in the suspension. A cortina back axle is live, not independent.
420kg is maybe a bit ambititious, although not impossible.
Price seems a bit strong for a carbed blade engine
No mention of SVA
There seems to be better buys around for less money.
Just my opinion of course.
Al.
Originally posted by hobzy
What are the key things to look for/ask about when looking at a s'hand BEC? As every one is so different even if made on the same chassis are
there specific things one should check for?
Seen this one in particular (sorry if its someone on here - if it is I'll remove it so not to discuss it specifically):
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/581647.htm
but its in middlesborough, so I'd like to get all the relevant info before I commit to driving all the way there from Portsmouth!
Appreciation in advance...
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hobzy
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 06:14 PM |
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Cheers gents. Thats what I need. He has rung me already and sent me some more pics. I shall ask him the relevant questions...
The cortina axle did flash up as a question mark for me.
Out of interest, how long did it take those of you with sequential boxes to get used to it? I'd have to drive it home as I've got nowt to
tow it with!
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hobzy
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 06:28 PM |
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Thanks - looked to good to be true.
Apart from here, and Pistonheads, where else is worth looking to find them? Google seems to throw up random sites with only 1 or 2 on. £8000 is my
limit or the Mrs will lynch me 
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Wadders
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 06:37 PM |
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There are loads of fine looking Bec Indys for sale on Pistonheads, within or around your budget. have you looked under Kitcars-MK, rather than bike
engined cars?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=485
Originally posted by hobzy
Thanks - looked to good to be true.
Apart from here, and Pistonheads, where else is worth looking to find them? Google seems to throw up random sites with only 1 or 2 on. £8000 is my
limit or the Mrs will lynch me
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Snuggs
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DONT TOUCH IT WITH A TEN FOOT POLE
According to mycarcheck.com it is a JAGO JEEP
https://www.mycarcheck.com/check/KOL689P/
[Edited on 25/6/08 by Snuggs]
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Spider pig, spider pig, does whatever a spider pig does.
I doubt therefore I may be.
Luposlipophobia : Fear of being chased by wolves around a freshly waxed kitchen floor, while wearing only socks on your feet.
My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely!
http://www.venganza.org
http://www.jesusandmo.net/
http://www.snuggs.co.uk
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hobzy
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 07:17 PM |
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What about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230262364390&fromMakeTrack=true
Sorry to be a pain...Its not like you can pop to the dealers and have alook is it
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worX
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 07:19 PM |
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Like Chris I know what my car weighed.
Thats because I had it corner weighted three times, but the reason I did that was firstly to get it set up spot on, but secondly, because I spent SO
MUCH time and money getting mine down to as low a weight as I could (446 kilos) that I really had to know!
For those reasons I would heavily question whether and Indy could be down to that weight just from the lightweight chassis.
As above I also think it's a locost - the rear axle is the main thing, but also the 2.25 shocks that quite often found their way onto the
locost's would make me believe...
Keep looking mate, and stick your findings on here for "us" to check!
Steve
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hobzy
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 07:38 PM |
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Cheers steve.
BTW, I'm glad you got yours sold, even if it wasn't to me  . I even got dispensation from the mrs to spend extra on yours
So what about the ebay one - would give me some cash to play with to change a few things - lightwieght seats etc. I would need to add a reverse as
well as the drive into the garage is on a slope and an angle.
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kurt
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 07:46 PM |
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Have a look at this one
Hi,
This is my car for sale, have a look on Pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/421369.htm
Cheers, Kurt
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JUD
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 08:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kurt
Hi,
This is my car for sale, have a look on Pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/421369.htm
Cheers, Kurt
[thread hijack]
Good colour scheme 
Do you get any cooling issues with that grill?
[thread hijack]
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MK Indy Blade
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worX
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 08:33 PM |
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That seems like a relatively well built car (from the photos) and also quite a well writted sales advert, which is a nice change from ebay and some on
PH!
I would change a couple of bits on it myself (but then we are all different aren't we!) However one of the things I'd change for definite
is the grille as I think it will restrict airflow for cooling.
Steve
ETA - sorry didn't mean to double up on the grille - JUD's post wasn't there when I started typing!
quote:
Originally posted by kurt
Hi,
This is my car for sale, have a look on Pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/421369.htm
Cheers, Kurt
[Edited on 25/6/08 by worX]
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hobzy
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 09:09 PM |
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What is the real world difference between the R1 cars and the blade engined cars, presuming roughly equivalent weight etc? are we talking bits of a
second? If so it looks more sense to go for something like that blade engined one on ebay leaving myself some cash to change the bits I want. Tricky.
That R1 does look good Kurt, but do fancy paddles - might as well go the whole hog
And why are they all up north for flips sake!!!
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JUD
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| posted on 25/6/08 at 09:25 PM |
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It's all subjective.
On a public road - I doubt you would notice the difference as the performance of both would be galactic compared to everybody else on the road. Plus
crap road surfaces, friendly rozzers and other road users tend to level the playing field somewhat.
On a track - I would have said that the difference would not be enough to overcome a bad setup or inexperienced driver. So if you can wring every last
ounce of performance out of the car (go, stop and handling) plus you are a close relation to M Schumacher then you may feel there is a noticeable and
significant difference. For mortals like me there isn't - my ability is the limiting factor on my lap times. If you start moving onto bigger
engines then the step change can be more noticeable - watch Paul Fishers Bruntingthorpe video where he passes both Reman and me. We were both in Blade
engined cars and peddling pretty well - Paul's ZX10R car on the new chassis is much quicker - and it can't all be down to his driving
skills
Martin
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MK Indy Blade
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Gezza
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| posted on 26/6/08 at 05:41 AM |
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hi mr hobzy, i have an r1 indy, nearly finished and will be or is for sale as is so you could finish to your liking u2u me for more info or my phone
number.
gerry
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hobzy
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 11:00 AM |
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I'm in contact with someone with an r1
in th meantime, havent seen many blackbird engined ones come up - like the colour scheme on this - bugger to keep clean though Thoughts?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/585167.htm
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Jubal
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 01:58 PM |
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I went from a blade (98 - carbed) to an R1 (03 - injection). Both engines standard (ish) and nothing special on the exhaust front. It's not
chalk and cheese but there is indeed a considerable performance difference. It's most noticeable in acceleration as the car pulls better out of
lower speed corners and gets to the limit in top more easily. I bet though I'm only a car length or two ahead of where I would have been.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 05:41 PM |
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Yup Id agree with Jubal, I converted from a carbed blade to 03 R1 in the same car so exactly like for like comparison. When I had the blade it was
unsuprisingly nigh on identical to a mate's blade Westfield, we'd pull out to overtake or accelerate from a slow corner on track and there
was no perceptable performance difference.
The R1 definitely has a lot better mid range and continues to pull significantly harder when into 3 figures. Id say now from say 30 to 100mph,
I'll pull 3-5 car lengths on the blade Westie now, and only lose two or three car lengths to a busa powered car.
[Edited on 27/6/08 by ChrisGamlin]
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hobzy
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| posted on 4/7/08 at 11:46 AM |
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Hurrah! Off to pick up an MK INDY R1 on Sunday. Pray for a dry day as its in Yorkshire and I've got to get it back to portsmouth!
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simoto
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| posted on 4/7/08 at 01:11 PM |
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Thats great, know how your feeling im pleased as punch with mine and i cant even drive it, lol.
Good luck Sunday.
striker/blade now complete, thanks to all on this site.
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hobzy
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| posted on 7/7/08 at 10:47 AM |
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Well what can I say. Unbelievable! Picked the car up in Ripon Sunday morning, Rich took me out to show me the ropes and let me drive back - plenty of
stalls! The car is an absolute credit to him and his workmanship. I drove it all the way back to Portsmouth in the driving wind and rain and it
didn't bat an eyelid. I however spent most of it hanging on for dear life because of the vicious crosswinds.
Despite all I still had a ridiculous grin on my face and still have it this morning. Just about getting used to pulling away without either revving
the nuts of or stalling it
Cannot wait to get out in it again - come on sunshine where are you? 
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