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starterman - 30/3/13 at 04:33 PM

I've ordered my steel and have boxes or various bits and bobs, but now I've come to the big question. What engine?

I want to use my car on the road but I also want to use it for hillclimbs.

What would you suggest please?

Cheers
Mike

ReMan - 30/3/13 at 04:42 PM

Yamaha R1 or Hayabusa

sdh2903 - 30/3/13 at 04:44 PM

Depends on what budget, these would be my choices:

CEC
cheap - zetec
pricey - s2000

BEC
cheap - carbed blade/R1
pricey - zzr1400

starterman - 30/3/13 at 04:48 PM

I know absolutely zero about bikes so how much work is involved to fit it into a car?

scootz - 30/3/13 at 04:59 PM

No more than a car-engine if starting from scratch.

starterman - 30/3/13 at 05:01 PM

So if i went for an R1 engine I'd need one complete with carbs and wiring loom?

Sorry if Iam sounding a bit dim but this is my first BEC attempt.

ReMan - 30/3/13 at 05:01 PM

This is posted in the BEC forum.

Suggest you trawl though the BEC forum for info on the different options, but as said done at the outset, no harder possibly easier than a car engine and a lot lighter
Edited, it wasnt that clear that you wanted a BEC in the first post,

[Edited on 30/3/13 by ReMan]

sdh2903 - 30/3/13 at 05:03 PM

Carbed bec engine very simple, not a great deal of wiring. turn it 90 degrees, fit an adapter where the sprocket is and get a prop to suit. Fit some heavy duty clutch springs and away you go.

blade engines very cheap now and are very robust.

ReMan - 30/3/13 at 05:05 PM

Yes just get all the working parts if poss off the bike, or buy a compete bike. Wiring, clocks etc
Sell the frame, bodywork and running gear.

ReMan - 30/3/13 at 05:06 PM

http://www.nationalkitcarshow.co.uk/

starterman - 30/3/13 at 05:30 PM

Is £700 high or low for an R1 engine complete with carbs and loom? 18k miles.

ReMan - 30/3/13 at 05:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by starterman
Is £700 high or low for an R1 engine complete with carbs and loom? 18k miles.

I'd say that's perhaps a bit high, but they always go up when your looking for one.

renetom - 30/3/13 at 05:41 PM

Hi
Really depends what you want from the car?
If you need to drive distances without the high revs of
a bike engine , then a car engine is the one for you.
If you want exhilarating acceleration & high revving power
Then you want a bike engine, much lighter than a car engine , you will need
or make an engine cradle & get a reversing gearbox or electric reverse.
but you wont need an engine hoist , 2 people can lift it in easily.
We have an R1 carbed engine & believe me it puts a smile on your face
150 BHP on rolling road just tuned without modifications.
Whereabouts are you ?.
Can always help if you are local
Good luck
René.

A bike engine works the same as a car engine, i can send you the R1 manual in PDF format , if you send me your email via UTU .

[Edited on 30/3/13 by renetom]

starterman - 30/3/13 at 05:45 PM

I don't want to drive high mileage, just take it to work (15 miles) and general local runs. I want the high revs and the acceleration. I've done a 8k revving pinto kit car and now I want real power and fun.

I'm in Cornwall so a bit far from you to nip around lol.

I hope you can bear with me and my ignorance of anything bike related.

imp paul - 30/3/13 at 07:59 PM

hi i feel you all missed 1 awesome engine, my vote is zx12r also known as a busa basha its lots of power for not much penny's



[Edited on 30/3/13 by imp paul]

renetom - 31/3/13 at 08:28 AM

Seen this , looks good
Make sure you get ecu & rectifier
air box if possible ,exup motor & clocks
if you want them.

Yamaha r1 engine 5jj complete | eBay

JimSpencer - 31/3/13 at 09:12 AM

quote:
Originally posted by starterman
I've ordered my steel and have boxes or various bits and bobs, but now I've come to the big question. What engine?

I want to use my car on the road but I also want to use it for hillclimbs.

What would you suggest please?

Cheers
Mike



Hi

The hillclimb class regs for your region (ASWMC) at clubbie level are this:-

B1. Roadgoing Specialist Production Cars. Car engines up to 1400cc & M/C engines up to 875cc
B2. Roadgoing Specialist Production Cars. Car engines over 1400cc up to 1800cc & M/C engines up to 1125cc
B3. Roadgoing Specialist Production Cars. Car engines over 1800cc & M/C engines over 1125cc

These can vary a bit if you wander round the country too, quite often the CEC split is 1.7L so if you were going to go CEC, I would be advising you to go for sumething just under 1.7L, or quite a bit over it

If you go BEC then realistically what you pick will fit anywhere, but the over 1125cc class could feature some very interesting power units indeed, so a nice simple unmessed about with 1L would fit nicely..
Make sure the reverse you fit doesn't happen to just 'fall off' post IVA as you'll need it to work to pass scruitineering.

Finally re the 'roadgoing' bit, some folks will tell you that any homebuilt one-off car has to go into Sports Libre, this isn't exactly how it can work with a Locost built to a set of published plans, as although it is indeed home built it's by no means a one off..

HTH

eddbaz - 2/4/13 at 08:16 PM

Still got a zx12r package for sale.