Board logo

893 blade engine.. opinions?
Major Stare - 28/9/08 at 06:55 PM

Thinking of swapping the trusty X-Flow in my narrow body Westfield for a Bike Engine. Always wanted a BEC, so why not

Have been given details of an 893 Blade engine and new 919 box.

Just intereseted on pepoles opinions??

bob tatt - 28/9/08 at 06:58 PM

check out the for sale section full kit on there

Dangle_kt - 28/9/08 at 09:05 PM

they are quick quick quick.

Get a joy ride in a bec and you'll see what the fuss is about, but also the downsides of a bec.

As far as the specific blade engines you mentioned, I;ve only had dealings with the 893cc, but all blades are pretty tried and tested in becs with few horror stories.

Major Stare - 28/9/08 at 09:39 PM

Horror stories ???

Anything to look out for when buying? Engine is currently fitted in a car.

ReMan - 28/9/08 at 09:47 PM

Gearbox will likely be the first failure in a car. But as long as it can be tested (DRIVEN) and not jump out of gear under hard load, then it's going to be at least as good as the next one

[Edited on 28/9/08 by ReMan]

MK9R - 29/9/08 at 06:26 AM

I test drove the the same car as mine (ST) with a blade engine, and i felt it was gutless compared to my ZX9R E engine. Don't get me wrong, it was still quick, but the Kwacker engine is far better IMO

ReMan - 29/9/08 at 06:44 AM

Stop messing around and get it bought, you know it makes sense!

x-flow-bec x-flow-bec x-flow-bec is there really a decision to be made

Major Stare - 29/9/08 at 04:06 PM

Both the X-Flow and 893 Blade engine have 130bhp, so i presume i will see an improvement on performance soley on weight saving?

The gearbox is a new 919, so no probs there

JUD - 29/9/08 at 09:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
Both the X-Flow and 893 Blade engine have 130bhp, so i presume i will see an improvement on performance soley on weight saving?

The gearbox is a new 919, so no probs there


Power delivery, sequential box, ability to change direction quicker, ability to stop quicker. It isn't just about how fast it goes, but also how it handles and how it stops.

Plus you get to build muscle pushing it backwards

Win-win!

ReMan - 29/9/08 at 10:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
Both the X-Flow and 893 Blade engine have 130bhp, so i presume i will see an improvement on performance soley on weight saving?

The gearbox is a new 919, so no probs there


The Blade may be slightly less than 130, but even so, the whole lump only weighs 65kg, so you,ve got to save 80-90kg thats a whole me!!

Don't forget the noise is good too and dont be put off that they are not for long distance. me and Mrs just did north wales 190 miles each way.
0-60 4-5 secs, 110mph but do you want to go any faster.
Sold yet?

moochofun - 30/9/08 at 12:10 PM

I know that the gear linkage setup is different between the 893 & 919 engines - they work the opposite way from each other. Just something to note when fitting it up - shouldn't pose a problem if its a new install though - only if you change between the two engine models.

Ta

Meeerrrk - 30/9/08 at 01:04 PM

if you are going to all the trouble of changing engine, you should really go for the best/most powerfull you can. Youll only want to upgrade in the future otherwise and have to go through it all again.
go for a zx12r or a newer blade engine, or an R1 or any litre bike engine to be honest!

Just IMHO obviously!

[Edited on 30/9/08 by Meeerrrk]

Major Stare - 30/9/08 at 04:12 PM

Cheers all,

Will be looking at finances over the next week.

Will know cost of the 893 engine and what extra i will be getting, which i think will be - loom, manifold, can etc. So a complete packages.
It wont have a water pump as the electric one will be removed by the current owner.


I will then be getting a company to fit the engine when i have removed the x-flow.

Think you guys have sold it to me


Edited..... ah cr@p, i'll need to swap all my gauges on the dash

[Edited on 30/9/08 by Major Stare]

Meeerrrk - 1/10/08 at 12:40 PM

use the bike dash, mine does and its super!

Major Stare - 2/10/08 at 06:29 AM

Any particular bike clocks/dash you can recomend?

gixermark - 2/10/08 at 08:09 AM

you could just buy a set of fireblade clocks - and have everything you need - and cheap..

blade power is great... i still can't get my head around how a relatively low powered bike engine works so well... th epower delivery and gear ratio's just seem to be made for car application.. especially compared to some of the newer stuff

Meeerrrk - 2/10/08 at 12:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Major Stare
Any particular bike clocks/dash you can recomend?

sure, use the dash that your engine came from; it will have everything ready to plug in. you will need a speedo healer to get the speed correct but thats all

Major Stare - 2/10/08 at 02:04 PM

Engine wont come with any gauges.

Anyone used a Viper dash?
If not its a DigiDash, dont think funds will allow.

gixermark - 2/10/08 at 03:36 PM

just buy the fireblade clocks from a wrecker - cheapest option by far..

you can rig up a decent rev counter with speedo, or get a digi dash etc etc.. but if its budget - you won;t get cheaper than the bike clocks

Meeerrrk - 3/10/08 at 09:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gixermark
just buy the fireblade clocks from a wrecker - cheapest option by far..

you can rig up a decent rev counter with speedo, or get a digi dash etc etc.. but if its budget - you won;t get cheaper than the bike clocks

thats what im trying to say; get the appropriate fireblade clocks...

Meeerrrk - 3/10/08 at 09:38 AM

mine with the fireblade clocks:

Major Stare - 3/10/08 at 04:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Meeerrrk
mine with the fireblade clocks:




Ooh, i quite like that !
Is that a gear indicator, as ive been told the 893 cant use one?

Meeerrrk - 3/10/08 at 09:05 PM

yes it is an accumen, although mine is a 2003 954 Fireblade setup