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how do i tell if i have a quick rack or not?
wobblyone - 26/1/11 at 10:47 PM

hi guys ive just bought a fury r1 and was wondering how i identify what rack it has in it, im used to karts so i want as little wheel turn/lock as possible for when she hits the track, im going to fit a bigget steering wheel first but was wondering what my options are to minimise the lock used?


cheers Wobb

NigeEss - 26/1/11 at 10:55 PM

It'll be bout 2 to 2.5 turns lock to lock.
3.5 (ish) is a standard rack.

Richard Quinn - 26/1/11 at 11:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NigeEss
It'll be bout 2 to 2.5 turns lock to lock.
3.5 (ish) is a standard rack.

That's not definitive. It could just be a restricted/shortened rack. I can't remember what the figures are but it really depends on how much the rack moves with each turn of the steering wheel too.

Yazza54 - 27/1/11 at 07:38 AM

Well, is it quick? :p

DRC INDY 7 - 27/1/11 at 07:47 AM

Just turn the wheel faster

RazMan - 27/1/11 at 09:13 AM

I found a 2.4 too quick for the road and changed to a 2.8 - surprisingly a big difference in feel. A smaller wheel makes it seem quicker too.

procomp - 27/1/11 at 10:51 AM

Hi

If it's a genuine 2.4 lock to lock 30% increase in ratio quick rack then the steering arms will move somewhere in the region of 50mm for one turn of the wheel / pinion shaft.
However there is also a QH rack which Westfield fit as std that is also 2.4 lock to lock but is only 18% increase in ratio but with restricted movement on the rack bar due to how far the bar was actually machined.
And of course there's the usual cheap rip off ones ones that have had lock stops fitted externally to a STD ratio rack to give 2.4 lock to lock.

As for ratio i prefer a genuine quick rack from Quaife 1.9 or 2.2 for track use and a 2.4 for road use. And always if possible a 280mm or 290mm Dia steering wheel usually a MOMO Model 26.

Cheers Matt

Yazza54 - 27/1/11 at 11:34 AM

Is your fury a blue one with the le mans bonnet, used to do hillclimbing? I viewed that car a while back if so.

Re the rack, someone mentioned it was too fast for road use...kinda agree, I love the fast steering but in anything other than dry and warm it makes the car a bit twitchy I find, and harder to correct.

procomp - 27/1/11 at 12:17 PM

Hi

" I love the fast steering but in anything other than dry and warm it makes the car a bit twitchy I find, and harder to correct. " That's down to suspension geometry and setup not forgetting the shorter wheelbase of the whole Fury Phoenix Striker setup also.

Cheers Matt

wobblyone - 27/1/11 at 05:05 PM

Cheers Matt, thanks for that. Can you supply quick racks, and also what sort of dosh are we talking for a quaife one?

yea Yazza thats the one, as a newbie im not sure YET whether ive bought a good car or not, only time will tell but it had a lot of good gear on it and it suits what i want to do with it.... As a kitcar expert what were your thoughts when you viewed it?

cheers Dean

procomp - 27/1/11 at 05:30 PM

Hi

Sorry i don't sell em myself. Rally design are the usual place for them at around £115 i think. That's a 2.4 with 30% increase in ratio over STD.
Quaife no idea these days Ive had a few rack kits still on the shelf from the last batch i brought a few years ago as they are rebuildable into genuine Ford casings. They do not do the 1.9 anymore but they do still so a 2.2 no idea on cost. There's also GRP 4 product. They do a heavy duty version at 2.4 30%. But that's around £220. Good quality though.

Cheers Matt

wobblyone - 27/1/11 at 06:11 PM

thanks matt ur a top bloke thank-you very very much for the info, also in a fury is it a escort rack im looking for?

cheers Dean