I have never been to a Locost race however i might be going to oulton on the 26th may and i was wondering how many cars start each race?


PS do u no how much it costs

[Edited on 29/4/03 by I love speed :-P]

Hi, in answer 2 u'r question - the no. of starters varies according to track.

I'm new to the Formula (started racing this season) but i think it varies somewhere between 'bout 28 - 36 depending on the circuit (quite high!)

At some meetings there are enough entrants that the 750 mc have 2 run two grids / races to accomodate all the cars (Donington - first race of the season had 'bout 44 registered entries)!

With regards 2 cost (im assuming you mean cost of entering each race) this also varies from about £100 to £165 depending on venue, no. of races etc etc.

If you mean cost of getting in to the race meeting (i.e. spectating) this is around £10 - however if u ask some of us racers nicely there r sometimes some complimentry passes going spare...if u'r lucky!

u should definitely come along 2 Oulton if u can make it - its quite a sight seeing 30-ish nutter locost racers all making a dive 4 the first corner...and if the first three races r anything 2 go by there's likely 2 be a few 'accidental collisions' along the way!

me and my mate are coming to watch at oulton. were about half way through building our car and hope to race in next years championship. any chance of 2 x passes from someone? i know im a cheeky git but hey, if you dont ask!!!! ( + my cars costing far more than the £250 promised in the book!!!!!) cheers. pumpers.

Pumpers, just turn up. I went to Brands, parked for free, sat in the Grandstand for free, thought "I wonder if I could get close up to the cars to get some build ideas", just wandered through the tunnel to the pitlane and then spent the next 3 hours peering at everyone's cars and taking photos! Total cost of good day out was the price of the petrol to get there and back. All the owner/builder/racers were very happy to talk so just go and ask! Different tracks of course may have different policies, but I'm sure even if Oulton charge some money it'll be a nominal amount.

cheers philbo, ill be there along with the digi camera!!!

sorry Pumpers - all my comps r gonna be used up for Oulton. Hope 2 c u up there though - u'r welcome 2 look round the car if theres any info u need / questions u want 2 ask 4 u'r build!

u can't miss my Race Car - Bright orange + Black...Locost 69!

Regards,
Dan S

tx steve, will be taking you up on that with camera at the ready!!!! ive got loads of qu's so i hope you like talkin!!!!! im goin for black nosecone etc and ali sidepanels. top race no. by the way. pumpers.

mmmm..... isn't this years car 69 Mark Crankshaws old car??? ie the current driver didn't errrrr...... actualy have much/anything to to with building it? . Damn good car tho, Mark and his brother are fine automotive engineers and deserved more sucess with it than they got.

If I'm well off the mark I'm sorry Dan but.......mmmmmm

Cheers

Dave

who's getting bored of editing this message

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as it happens Dave - u r a touch off the mark! The car used to belong to Mark's brother, Paul and whilst the car did prove to be a good 'foundation to build on' when I bought it I have actually since modified or replaced about 60% of the entire car. I say 60%, but this is also bearing in mind that I haven't modified the chassis which was in fact originally purchased from MK and wasn't built by Paul or his brother in the first place.

I assume the tone of your email was intended to question what degree of knowledge I have regarding the building of Locost Race cars and as it happens the kind of levels of research and investigation I have carried out since owning Paul's Locost from the middle of last year i am entirely confident matches if not exceeds your obviously 'extensive' catalogue of knowledge. I have also been avidly involved in Classic Fords for the past five years and have fully rebuilt and restored two original Mk 1 Ford Escorts (in fact the very cars that much of the locost running gear consists of or is very similar to) in every aspect from the running gear right through to restoration of the bodyshells. In addition to all the aspects of the Locost I have modified I am also currently building a second Locost from scratch as a joint project with my cousin who is intending to race in next year's series. IN ADDITION to all this, I actually have a 1st Class Honours Degree, and Masters in 'Mechanical Engineering with Automotive Design', have worked for 2 leading companies both at the forefront of the Automotive sector, and am currently applying for positions as a Professional Design Engineer within the field of Motorsport and Race Car Development.

Is that enough evidence for you that I might have an 'inkling' of what I'm talking about!!!!

p.s. I'm looking forward to Monday's race, to see who's 'Car Developments / building' seem to have been more succesful.

Oh, and Pumpers - the offer is still very much open if you're interested.

[Edited on 21/5/03 by steve26]

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[Edited on 21/5/03 by steve26]

As I said, if I was wide of the mark I would appologise - and I do - sorry Dan

Just 'cos Brett hasn't beaten you yet though don't think he wont he can drive the dodgy cars/engines I build for him better than almost anyone else racing Locosts at the moment

What's all the nonsense about how may academic qualifications you have btw - they mean little to nothing in club motorsport - Tony Southgate races in the Kit Car championship after all and you would think someone who designed race winning Le Mans cars would walk away with it wouldn't you!

Dave - BEng (Hons) Automotive Engineering

OI'' This aint Yahoo y' know!!

lol lol



Jason

okay DB, apology accepted.

As 4 Monday, no offence intended - and I do have respect 4 you, Brett & Jon - I realise you guys have been at the Locost game a lot longer than i have & am sure both u'r knowledge & Brett's driving experience far outweigh mine 2 date. Anyway, believe it or not I reckon all that stuff should start and end where it belongs - on the track! (just got a bit carried away).

Yeah, and I probably shouldn't have posted that message - whatever, it's done - it doesn't pay to underestimate experience and driving skills over academic stuff though as I have learned the hard way

I'm not a driver and I have one ambition left in Locost (and it's not winning the championship btw) and then I want to move on - there is no point getting too technical with a Locost because unless you are cheating it isn't going to gain you anything - it'll teach you a good bit about how to drive/build a car, how much people are willing to cheat to win, what drivers are like etc etc but it's just the very bottom rung of a very long ladder - this is our 4th season doing it and to be honest I'm bored stupid with it.

Probably if I drove the car it would be different - but I don't so it's not

Dave

didnt mean to cause a spat!!! ill quite happily talk to anyone, ill quite happily nick anybodies ideas!!! ill quite happily combine those ideas to get what i think is this best design!!! and then ill quite happily race my car, probably come last or worse, but enjoy every minute of it, as im doing building the thing ( which is probably the most annoying thing ive ever done!!!) yes i want to win but realistically ive got no chance. no i will not cheat even if others do. i will take advice from anyone and freely give as much advice as i can with my limited knowledge. its nice to know some others think in a similar vein and steves offer is very much appreciated. hopefully ill get some other ideas from mr beddows. ( you used all your complimentary tickets mr beddows? now need 4!!! LOL) im hoping to talk to as many people as i can, qualified or not to add to my knowledge and im also hoping everybody is friendly and enjoys what they are doing, otherwise whats the point? ill certainly have a good day on monday and will hopefully learn something. pumpers.

You didn't cause a 'spat' pumpers that was all down to me I have a bit of a history in such matters when I'm bored lol.

One thing I will say is that I wish people wouldn't use nicknames on here 'cos you can be chatting to someone at a race meeting who has introduced himself, as lets say 'Brian', for ages and only after half an hour do you realise it's the bloke calling himself something like 'LOCOST MONSTER' on this group.....

eg. - 'Hello I'm pumpers' (just for example) ........lots of us laughing, sh*ts probably going wrong so we need a bit of light relief, you feel like we think you're a muppet - hello I'm Steve (or whatever) on the other hand, no one laughs....just a thought!!!

As for tickets, nope, sorry mate home race and all that entails.......feel free to come and say hello though.

Cheers

Dave Beddows

tx for that, ill come and talk to you as well then!!! my real name is craig but i get called allsorts, even pumpers on occasion! c u monday. pumpers.