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johncarman - 28/10/09 at 02:01 PM

After seeing pictures of the Exige Stealth (look here for those that haven't seen it: http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/21102009/36/t/tokyo-supercar-lotus-exige-stealth-0.html ), I am wondering if it possible to get a similar look on a locost. I know the lotus is using some special soft touch paint, but what are the pro's and con's of using standard Matt black Celulose??
Does anyone have any experience spraying matt paint, is it easier or harder than gloss ?? My initial though is that you wouldn't be able to rub down / polish out any imperfection, is that correct ?? Also does it need or is it possible to apply a lacquer, I see that matt cellulose lacquer is available, what type of finish will this give ??

Thanks,

John


speedyxjs - 28/10/09 at 02:03 PM



[Edited on 28-10-09 by speedyxjs]


Guinness - 28/10/09 at 02:03 PM

Could you not get a matt black vinyl wrap?

Mike


paul the 6th - 28/10/09 at 02:11 PM

matt black vinyl wrap would be possible but it'd take a few attempts to get it absolutely perfect on things like the nosecone or top & bottoms of the rear panel... Having said that, straight rolls of black vinyl are relatively cheap so the real cost would be the labour & time to actually get it looking smart.


Confused but excited. - 28/10/09 at 02:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs


[Edited on 28-10-09 by speedyxjs]

That looks just like my etch primer with a glossy stripe stuck on it.


Mr Whippy - 28/10/09 at 02:19 PM

I had a matt black cortina for years not sure I’d do it again. Keeping it clean was a nightmare and it always either got scuffed or had hand prints all over it. Also really dodgy at night, I use to walk into as it was all but invisible . If I was to do it again I’d add bright or even reflective stripes to prevent folk driving into it. Matt is also quite porous so don’t expect it to keep away rust, it remains damp long after a gloss car had dried.


Irony - 28/10/09 at 02:26 PM

I heard that Flat matt paint is really easy to paint on and easy to touch up. I knew a fella who had a flat matt beetle which in my opinion was more filler than bodywork. He just used to spray more matt balck on when he'd finished fillering! You could hardly see the joint.

Yes flat matt vinyl is available.


scootz - 28/10/09 at 02:28 PM

Speak to fluidslvr on here - he painted his Toniq in a Matt.


02GF74 - 28/10/09 at 03:07 PM

I have matt blck patches on my ex mil land rover. painted using matt black paint, which was more satin than matt so mixed in wickes matt blackboard paint.

nice and matt but the surface is porous so it gets dirty quickly and then next to impossible to clean due to the small particles embedding them in the paint.

not a problem on a land rover but I wouldn't think it'll look too good on yer car.

I therefor suspect what cahrthingham have used is something different and probablyu much more expensive.

matt clear varnish to seal the surface may be the lowcost answer.


johncarman - 28/10/09 at 04:17 PM

Is using a matt celulose lacquer to protect it an option. Has anybody used this, I can't really imagine what it would look like, I can only think a lacquer being shiny ??


Brommers - 28/10/09 at 04:24 PM

My Fury racecar is matt black:


It was easy enough to paint, but it's a bugger to keep clean, it's almost impossible to touch up any new areas properly as the degrees of 'matt'ness change every time I stir the paint, and as you say you can't polish out any defects.

That said, I said reckon it looks rather good. And it *was* easy to spray...


Ivan - 28/10/09 at 04:35 PM

My understanding is that the proper way to do it is to spray the car with normal gloss black paint then cover with several layers of clear coat mixed with a "Duller" in the right proportion to get the level of satin finish you want.

This is apparently somewhat easier to keep clean.


fluidslvr - 28/10/09 at 05:24 PM

I used military paint..easy to apply and touch up..Used these guys..LINKY


Tango Toniq
Tango Toniq


Irony - 28/10/09 at 05:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fluidslvr
I used military paint..easy to apply and touch up..Used these guys..LINKY


Tango Toniq
Tango Toniq



That looks fecking brill mate. How do you clean it?


BenB - 28/10/09 at 05:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Brommers
My Fury racecar is matt black:

It was easy enough to paint, but it's a bugger to keep clean, it's almost impossible to touch up any new areas properly as the degrees of 'matt'ness change every time I stir the paint, and as you say you can't polish out any defects.

That said, I said reckon it looks rather good. And it *was* easy to spray...


that's funny, my brother has a car like that


scootz - 28/10/09 at 06:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fluidslvr
I used military paint..easy to apply and touch up..Used these guys..LINKY

How did you apply it... brush or spray?


Tango Toniq
Tango Toniq


scootz - 28/10/09 at 06:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fluidslvr
I used military paint..easy to apply and touch up..Used these guys..LINKY

Tango Toniq
Tango Toniq



How did you apply it... brush or spray?


Brommers - 28/10/09 at 06:39 PM

quote:

that's funny, my brother has a car like that



'ullo lil' bro'...

[Edited on 28/10/09 by Brommers]


fluidslvr - 28/10/09 at 07:56 PM

just wash as normal.. no special treatment

sprayed on ..was tempted to get the roller out to see what the finish was like


johncarman - 28/10/09 at 08:30 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies, all very helpful.

fluidslvr, I love the car, that looks great, exactly the finish I am after. I might get a tin of the paint you suggest and have a go on some scrap metal.


John


john midtec - 1/11/09 at 08:04 PM

that looks great


john midtec - 1/11/09 at 08:04 PM

that looks great