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daniel mason

posted on 4/8/09 at 04:20 PM Reply With Quote
hill climbs?

was thinkng of getting involved in hill climbs and sprints in 2010 and was wondering where to start? have been considering selling the mnr and building a single seater (bike power) over the winter.i am however a complete novice and have never competed in any level of motorsport! do you have to pay to do a series of events or can you just do them when time and money are ok? is ther any beginners events and are single seaters in a more competative class than 7's. thanks guys
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Dangle_kt

posted on 4/8/09 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
there is a new haynes single seater book on the way that uses blade power, chris gibb's new book. maybe have a squiz on the haynes forum to find out when its out.
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daniel mason

posted on 4/8/09 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
thanks mate! once i make a decision on car i will be asking yet more questions regarding engine choices etc. i would imagine due to the extreme lightweight, that some engines may have a bit too much torque and possibly too much power! it might be that a blade/R1 may be more suited than say a busa/zx12/14
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spdpug98

posted on 4/8/09 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
I am thinking of doing the same in the MNR unless a deal I am working on comes off and if it does I will be racing again next year (not in the MNR)

May be worth dropping Paul (paublo999) on here a u2u as he sprints his MNR up in Scotland, he has given me some help and advice recently

You can either enter local Championships and just compete at that hill, which is what I was thinking of or enter the National Championships and compete at all the hills on the calender

It may be worth you joining your local Motoring / Motorsport Club as they usually recieve all the Regulations for Sprints in the local area

I was up at rain soaked Goodwood on Saturday watching the Brigton & Hove Sprint - good day but got very very wet

Good place to start: http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/

[Edited on 4/8/09 by spdpug98]





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Flamez

posted on 4/8/09 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
I hope to be joining the welsh series. IDSWEB has been doing it for some time now.

You could undertake this in your current kit, the single seaters are incredibley fast and very competitive, I think you would need to throw a bucket full of money at that.

Your current car would be in a section of road going as long as it is sva'd and taxed.

You would need to join a local club and get a non race B licence from MSA.

The car would need tyres that conform to the approved tyre list, a fire extinguisher, timing light breaker, tow eyes and sign on ign showing off.

You will need an approved helmet, approved suit, gloves. boots and underwear all out lined in the blue book

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[Edited on 4-8-09 by Flamez]





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daniel mason

posted on 4/8/09 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
cheers but am not sure my R1 powered mnr or my average driving skills would be a match for paul in his zzr1400! lol. he is crazy fast
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JimSpencer

posted on 4/8/09 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

I currently compete, in a Striker, in the road going up to 1.7 litre class.

As mentioned above you can pick odd events, single venue, regional right through to national level competetion to suit your pocket or aims.

Flamez has the equipment list more or less right, although you don't need a fire extinguisher nor the gloves, boots or underware - though all are recommended.

I would recommend starting with the car you have, I have a single seater too (currently in circuit racing spec) and the difference in feel and performance is a world apart from a road going seven.

Learning the sport in a vehicle you're used to, which you can drive to the events, is going to make it a whole lot easier to get started. Once you've done a season in that, know your way around the venue's etc etc then think about a faster car IMHO.

Building your own car is a brave step, spend plenty of time looking around a paddock or ten and there is a very good book on motorcycle engined racing cars available. Plus one from the same publishers on the sport of Hillclimb & Sprinting the latter should be an essential read.

Re engines, class breaks are:-
Up to 600
600 to 1100
1100 to 1600
1600 to 2000
2000+

At most events, sometimes joined together, depending on local interest levels.

There will always be somebody with more power - so don't worry about that what-so-ever, full race bike engines are not uncommon for example. Saying that folk with box stock engines can, and do, go very well, as the differences can be smaller than you might think.

I would recommend getting along to a few events and having a look.
As you're in the North West i would be happy for you (or anybody else interested) to come along and i'll go through the whole thing with you, from signing on to results etc.



[Edited on 4/8/09 by JimSpencer]

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Steve Hignett

posted on 4/8/09 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JimSpencerAs you're in the North West i would be happy for you (or anybody else interested) to come along and i'll go through the whole thing with you, from signing on to results etc.
[Edited on 4/8/09 by JimSpencer]


Whereabouts are you?
It's something that I'm not planning on doing for quite some time, but would love to learn more about it before I dive in head first!
Steve






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grassracer

posted on 4/8/09 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
Have a look at www.wigtonmc.co.uk

They have a succesful speed championship which includes rounds at Barbon, Three Sisters, Harewood etc all fairly local to you.
Classes specifically for bike engined kits (popular so a bit of competition) and also racing cars (open wheeled single seaters) and Sports Libre which would include full bodied single seaters such as Radical type cars....loads of scope for homebuilt cars
Entries range from £75 to £100 ish per round, they do a scholarship for newbies which includes discounted entries, discounted racesuits etc and a bit of mentoring
Hope this helps

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Richard Quinn

posted on 4/8/09 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldn't mind having a look too. I've been to Three Sisters today to have a look at the facilities for a potential corporate karting do. Looks like it would be quite a nice sprint.
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chris_smith

posted on 4/8/09 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
also very interested in some form of (cheap) motorsport possibly with the 7 was considering Autosolo but sprints sounds a bit more competative so count me in



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lsdweb

posted on 4/8/09 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
Been doing it for years - it's a really sociable sport but still ultra competitive!

Some classes can be quiet and you can be on your own - others not so!

I've run in standard production car class this season and had a giggle, been on TV (link but it's in Welsh!), had some tough fights, some scary moments and a handful of trophies! I should win my class in the Welsh Championship and could win the Club championship overall (but only because of others' misfortunes!)

I'd go rallying if I could afford it but speed events are now in my blood!

Also planning a night event in it in October and Phil (FlameZ) has offered to read the maps!!

Three Sisters sprint this weekend -
link to WSAHC site

Wyn

[Edited on 4/8/09 by lsdweb]

[Edited on 4/8/09 by lsdweb]






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JimSpencer

posted on 5/8/09 at 07:48 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
Whereabouts are you?
It's something that I'm not planning on doing for quite some time, but would love to learn more about it before I dive in head first!
Steve


Hi Steve

I'm located just south of Crewe.

But the easiest way for anybody to find out about how the sport works is to come along to an event.

Over the next few weeks we have these:-

8/9 August, 3 Sisters - Just north of Ashton in Makefield, signposted off A49

22/23 August, Loton Park - Alberbury, Shropshire (5 mile west of Shrewsbury) on B4393

5/6 September, Trac Mon Anglesey Circuit, Just south of Rhosneigr.

There will be a few more events too - but not on my 'to do' list!

Be happy to show anybody round, take them through the process, introduce them to a club rep etc etc or drop me a U2U.

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probablyleon

posted on 21/1/10 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
I have every intention of doing some hill climbs / sprints but am still trying to pluck up the courage! I've been a spectator since I was a kid (now in my 40's) mostly at Prescott. I think in order to get over my initial nerves I'm going to do a day at their hill climb school <http://www.prescott-hillclimb.com/driversschool.aspx>

I'd be very interested to hear from anybody that's taking the plunge in 2010.

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