matty h
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:16 PM |
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Best engineered/ handling 7
What are peoples thoughts on which 7 replica handles and is engineered the best.
Matty
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loggyboy
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:17 PM |
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Mk indy?
PMSL
sorry - i just had to
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ashg
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:19 PM |
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caterham - they just feel better cant put my finger on it but they are better.
[Edited on 16/1/2012 by ashg]
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snapper
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:22 PM |
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MNR!!!!!
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AdrianH
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:24 PM |
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Aerial atom, if for nothing else then watching Clarkson's face flap in the wind!
Adrian
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loggyboy
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:27 PM |
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Strikers are quite renound for being good handlers.
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mookaloid
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:27 PM |
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Procomp or caterham at a guess
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matty h
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:39 PM |
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I have been looking at mnr's, strikers, stuart taylors/aries and westfield.
Does anyone no the good and bad regarding the above.
Thanks Matty
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MikeFellows
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:41 PM |
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surely this is more builder related than kit manufacturer related, as in I could buy a caterham and do a crap job of building it using the worst bits
i can lay my hands on - someone else might build a locost chassis from scratch and do an amazing job
if your talking about manufacturer built cars, If i went to a kit manufacturer and asked them to build me £40k's worth would it be better than a
R500?
then you need to define better, but thats for another day
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designer
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posted on 16/1/12 at 10:43 PM |
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Caterham, without a doubt.
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loggyboy
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posted on 16/1/12 at 11:10 PM |
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caterham are still using dedion in all bar the CSR. hardly pushing the engineering boundaries there!
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austin man
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posted on 16/1/12 at 11:28 PM |
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all depends what you are planning to use it for really. A good handling track car may not be best suited to the road and vice versa. Caterham have
obviously had huge investments are a substantially more expensive car than the likes of Mac 1 MNR MK etc this doesnt mean they cant be made to handle
as well.
Many now supplying adjustable wishbone to overcom the caster issues
The striker is one of the most nimble I have seen around a course of cones this doesn't go to say they handle the best around a track.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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snapper
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posted on 17/1/12 at 05:53 AM |
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What's the best handling 7
A bit like saying what's the best football team (UK and/or Europe?)
What's the best super car?
What's the best digital SLR
There will always be argument and conjecture
There is a big "how much money" element
It's about set up
And how much skill do you have
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phelpsa
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posted on 17/1/12 at 07:49 AM |
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Any of them can be made to handle well, all have their flaws. It depends as much about what YOU do with it as what kit you buy in the first place.
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scootz
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posted on 17/1/12 at 08:16 AM |
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A wise man once said to me... if you follow the build manual correctly and fit the recommended components, then a Caterham will pretty much handle
straight out of the box. This cannot be said for a number of other kit-makers.
It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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posted on 17/1/12 at 08:18 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
caterham are still using dedion in all bar the CSR. hardly pushing the engineering boundaries there!
if it ain't broke, then no need to fix it!
... and many say that the DD cats handle better than the IRS CSR!
It's Evolution Baby!
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rost
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posted on 17/1/12 at 08:35 AM |
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I'm slightly biased to the Striker
- Very strong chassis, loads of triangulations.
- Nice, simple in-board suspension that loads the springs better because of the near vertical positioning
- Might be the smallest around, that plus it's design (standard aluminum panels all round, 7" diff, etc) makes it pretty light.
Plus Jeremy Philips has proven to know a thing or two about suspension design
[Edited on 17/1/12 by rost]
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chris-g
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posted on 17/1/12 at 09:52 AM |
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Spyder Silverstone. Yes, I am biased but it was banned after its first three races for being too good. This was in the mid 80's so other
manufacturers will no doubt have caught up.
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Steve Hignett
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posted on 17/1/12 at 09:59 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
caterham are still using dedion in all bar the CSR. hardly pushing the engineering boundaries there!
Are you trolling with this statement?
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MakeEverything
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posted on 17/1/12 at 11:20 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Steve Hignett
quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
caterham are still using dedion in all bar the CSR. hardly pushing the engineering boundaries there!
Are you trolling with this statement?
Why do you go out of your way to question at least one person like this in almost every thread you contribute to?
I seem to remember you did the same to speedyxjs, which is why we don't see him as much.
MK have fully adjustable wishbones as well, so long as you can "cold set" them apparently.
[Edited on 17-1-12 by MakeEverything]
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
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Steve Hignett
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posted on 17/1/12 at 11:43 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote: Originally posted by Steve Hignett
quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
caterham are still using dedion in all bar the CSR. hardly pushing the engineering boundaries there!
Are you trolling with this statement?
Why do you go out of your way to question at least one person like this in almost every thread you contribute to?
I seem to remember you did the same to speedyxjs, which is why we don't see him as much.
MK have fully adjustable wishbones as well, so long as you can "cold set" them apparently.
[Edited on 17-1-12 by MakeEverything]
Because I wanted to find out whether it was a sarcastic comment before I replied properly, as there are lots of Caterhams that have IRS.
And if I came back with that as a reply, and he turned around and siad "Gotcha", I'd feel silly.
If I said the above and he genuinely didn't know, then I would point him in the direction so he could learn a bit more about it if he was
interested.
However, I was under the impression that Loggyboy knew quite a bit about the various makes, as he posts his opinions about lots of them quite often,
so I felt sure he would already know this...
And this is why I asked a direct question...
PS/ETA - I did not do the same to SpeedyXJS.
[Edited on 17/1/12 by Steve Hignett]
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twybrow
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posted on 17/1/12 at 11:46 AM |
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Talk to Procomp - they will soon tell youw hat works around the track and what doesn't!
From what I recall, he said Caterham are the very best, with Wetfield coming a little way behind.
He also praised the Striker, and the Stuart Taylor. There was slightly less praise for the MNR, and less again for the standard Indy - although as he
pointed out, you can set any of these cars up badly!
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Neville Jones
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posted on 17/1/12 at 11:52 AM |
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Excepting electronics, there's nothing mechanical done on a car today, that wasn't done before 1920. Even electric drive.
So, engineering 'boundaries' are constantly being rediscovered, not pushed to new limits.
Peugeot had twin overhead cam 4valves per cylinder in that era. The 'new' brake system/suspension system on the F1 Ferrari, is only an
adaptation of what was raced in the thirties.
The best handling are the cars I build. The car you built is the best to you. And unless Seb Vettel or Mark Webber or similar are doing the comparing,
who knows????
Cheers,
Nev.
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Bluemoon
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posted on 17/1/12 at 11:58 AM |
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Stick up a poll, that would be interesting but make sure the manufactures list is complete!.. I suspect this thread is not going to be helpful though
to much bias from owners
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eddie99
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posted on 17/1/12 at 12:01 PM |
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If a poll goes up, it will just tell you who has what car.
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