russbost
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| posted on 6/2/10 at 10:05 AM |
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Wow! Hadn't meant to stir up a hornets' nest!
I can actually see both sides of the argument, but personally i can't see that we're doing much good in Afghanistan, I'd much rather
see our boys pulled out & save a lot more money - it's no longer a war out there, more a sort of humanitarian mission & there are people
better placed to do that than soldiers.
They recently came out with the fact that they have spent £13 million (IIRC) on helicopters for our guys out there - wait for it - to be ready by 2012
or 2013 - in other words after we should no longer be there!!!
This government has so much sensless waste it is unbelievable - they've just announced you'll only have to work about half as long to
qualify for state pension! - that's going to help a lot - NOT!
Sorry - rant over!
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Chippy
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| posted on 7/2/10 at 12:04 AM |
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Steve G
Pick a bit out at randon, why don't you! I think the remainder of the post states the case. But as for getting people killed in my
family, I don't think so mate, none of them are that stupid to join the forces. Me being the last one to do so, and I did my time in Ireland,
and Cyprus, which were the wars of the day. The only people who died for others in my family were those that were in the 2ndWW, and there were too
many of them. Ray
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iank
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| posted on 7/2/10 at 12:26 AM |
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I'm afraid too many people are falling into the classic misdirection being carried out by the government.
We've already spend over £5.7bn* on the effort in Afghanistan.
Do you really think that they will take any £3million saving and use it to directly buy anything they wouldn't have been able to for the
military that they wouldn't have bought anyway? That's less than a 12hours spend at the current rate**, so cutting the ww2 planes is
nothing but a publicity fig leaf to show they are cutting stuff rather than any useful amount of cash. They could get that amount of money by not
installing useless traffic calming measures for a week or so.
* http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/oct/05/afghanistan-spending-per-head-uk-us-canada-defence
** http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=phNtm3LmDZEPnKo7yLtmkNg
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t.j.
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| posted on 7/2/10 at 11:06 AM |
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Is it really money which counts by saving lives?
IMO it always the question are we giving the people freedom back Yes or No?
If it is yes, don't bother about the money.
It costs money but what if they cared about the money in 1944?
Nobody asked why we gave so much money to a corrupt government in Hiati....
So it's the only way:
Invest in freedom or else yours is next.
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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richard thomas
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| posted on 7/2/10 at 11:54 AM |
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Some very good arguments for and against, can see both points of view.
However it is unlikely that the £3M saving would be directed into the Afghan conflict budget...nice thought as it is. Just as likely to be spent on
white paint for touching up before the Queen visits....
Bear in mind that these aircraft support a lot of fund raising events around the country throughout the year.
The MOD has already stated that it will not allow private funding or charity support for the BBMF.
Whilst the BBMF is a fitting memorial for those who served, it is also a fantastic reminder of Britain's past engineering ability.
Red Arrows next?
I reserve my disgruntlement for the £Billions put aside to bail out the banks at the drop of a hat. Now that's a lot of body armour....
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 7/2/10 at 06:40 PM |
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Yep, I agree with Richard. Anyone who is naive enough to believe that the money rediredted from the BBMF would be spent on Afghanistan ( which I think
is out 3rd or 4th attempt out there in history and it has NEVER been or come to a satifactory conclusion out there ) or our soldiers out there is
being a little easily led. Yes our boys deserve every penny spent on them if not a lot more. However personnally I think the politicians should be the
first to make cuts in their support. If they are not prepared to go out there and lead our lads from the front then they should donate all their
expenses and even their salaries they recieve from the government. That little sum would certainly improove matters.
[Edited on 7/2/10 by jollygreengiant]
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