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Alez

posted on 4/10/07 at 03:27 PM Reply With Quote
Now, if he is fined, would you say:

1. It's because FIA decided he diserved it.

2. It's so we have a more interesting end of the season.

3. It's in return for Alonso giving FIA evidence on McLaren stealing IP from Ferrari.

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jollygreengiant

posted on 4/10/07 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
So Farieland Alonso says he thought Hamilton drove dangerously. Then one must assume that it is perfectly OK to take a blatant side swipe at someone and force them off the road rather than loose position out of a corner. As witnessed in the previous race.

I cannot help but think that some penalty will be handed down by the FIA to Hamilton. (If only because he was unable to contribute to the condemnation of (Sir) Ron Dennis.





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Catpuss

posted on 4/10/07 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by James
That Monaco race a few seasons ago, when JPM drove into the back of M Schumacher in the tunnel...

that was when MS 'brake tested' him wasn't it?


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James


Yep under the saftey car goign round a bend too in the tunnel. Was rather amusing.

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bob

posted on 4/10/07 at 06:56 PM Reply With Quote
At 1st i couldnt understand why this should come to light now, but after realising who supply engines ro red bull racing and torro rosso i can see a cunning plan

Plus the fact max doesnt like lewis






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posted on 4/10/07 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Plus the fact max doesnt like lewis



Thats cause he's English (sorry British) and black. You can't be both( in Max's eyes )I suspect due to his tainted past.
The whole scenario stinks does it not?? I predict the F1 champions of 2008 will be Ferrari. Any one who dares to compete closely against them will be the subject of an inquiry and suitably penalised.





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smart51

posted on 4/10/07 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
Perhaps if the safety car wasn't painted the colour of road spray, rain, fog and overcast skies it might be more visible.
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craig1410

posted on 4/10/07 at 08:03 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by thunderace
here is the thing your all missing if they do lewis they would have to do evryone who has been more than 5 cars behind the safty car year ,
the safty car slows very slow then floors in when it sees him at there side window look closely.i dont like lewis and i can see its not his fault if anyones its the safty cars fault.


I don't think they will charge him under that rule, there is another rule about erratic driving under the safety car which I think he is well and truly guilty of. In my opinion I think he should be dropped two places and therefore lose 4 points from Fuji AND get a 10 place grid penalty for the next race. Given Mark Webber's pace at Fuji I think he would have easily got past Hamilton after the safety car pulled in.

As for Hamilton complaining about Webber being too close, that's rubbish! There is no rule about minimum distance behind the safety car and if he was worried about getting rear ended then he shouldn't have been brake-testing those behind him!

I really hope they throw the book at him as he still needs to come down off his cloud. Sorry but that's the way I feel - he's had too much too soon and it's gone to his head.

Craig.

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posted on 4/10/07 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
Hamilton's driving was very dubious. the safety car takes a cautious line through the corner but does so in a fairly predicable way, hamilton was going far too quick and pulls wide rather then go into the safety car and that cause webber to brake to try and keep behind him and avoid a penalty for overtaking and vettel went into him. it showed a lack of experience and it is a bit worrying from a very nearly world champion or more for the lack of serious competition.
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Paul TigerB6

posted on 4/10/07 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by craig1410

I really hope they throw the book at him as he still needs to come down off his cloud. Sorry but that's the way I feel - he's had too much too soon and it's gone to his head.

Craig.



Would you rather see Alonso be crowned as champion then?? You know, that guy who has thrown all his toys out of the pram, and his dummy too because McClaren wouldnt give him preferential treatment as he was unable to match Hamilton out on the track for consistency. Alonso has made so many mistakes this year (Canada etc) in order to try and keep up so last thing i'd want to see is him winning it!!

If you'd rather throw the book at the best talent to come out of this country in years and cost him the world championship for what was probably down to a lack of experience and naivity then i think thats pretty sad really. With the positions of the cars at the time I cant imagine that Hamilton set out to cause a crash at all.

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Peteff

posted on 4/10/07 at 08:54 PM Reply With Quote
Stirling Moss summed it up for me.

However, British motorsport great Sir Stirling Moss said to blame Hamilton for Webber and Vettel's crash was "absolutely ridiculous".

He told BBC 5live: "I think they feel it will better to take the championship to the last race. It could be a real blow for Hamilton."

Choreographing the championship to suit their own ends is not going to do them any favours and if Alonso does win it will be a hollow victory.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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rusty nuts

posted on 4/10/07 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
Looks very much to me like Webber was braking to avoid the safety car?
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JUD

posted on 4/10/07 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by craig1410

I really hope they throw the book at him as he still needs to come down off his cloud. Sorry but that's the way I feel - he's had too much too soon and it's gone to his head.

Craig.


Too much, too soon...

How does that work?

He has been associated with McLaren for over 10 years, has come up thru the ranks and has earnt his position in the team. He has raced at least as fairly as everybody else on the grid, only been off the podium a handful of times.

Is any of this thru his own ability - or purely because he is lucky?

Why do we always knock people that achieve in this country?

Too much, too soon... pardon him for being competitive and extremely good at what he has been doing for years.





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JoelP

posted on 4/10/07 at 10:49 PM Reply With Quote
yeah, bollox to that. You're not allowed to win first seaon?
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Paul TigerB6

posted on 5/10/07 at 01:22 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by smart51
Perhaps if the safety car wasn't painted the colour of road spray, rain, fog and overcast skies it might be more visible.



Now what colour would you suggest for next season??? How about a nice Ferrari Rosso red colour?? Thats nice n visible - just ask Max - he cant see anything but that colour for some reason

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mookaloid

posted on 5/10/07 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410

I really hope they throw the book at him as he still needs to come down off his cloud. Sorry but that's the way I feel - he's had too much too soon and it's gone to his head.

Craig.



Would you rather see Alonso be crowned as champion then?? You know, that guy who has thrown all his toys out of the pram, and his dummy too because McClaren wouldnt give him preferential treatment as he was unable to match Hamilton out on the track for consistency. Alonso has made so many mistakes this year (Canada etc) in order to try and keep up so last thing i'd want to see is him winning it!!

If you'd rather throw the book at the best talent to come out of this country in years and cost him the world championship for what was probably down to a lack of experience and naivity then i think thats pretty sad really. With the positions of the cars at the time I cant imagine that Hamilton set out to cause a crash at all.


Just have a look at where Craig1410 comes from............ says it all really - Many (not all) Scots like to bash the English whenever they can. e.g. if England are playing rugby the Scots generally support the opposition....

Cheers

Mark





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 5/10/07 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by mookaloid

Just have a look at where Craig1410 comes from............ says it all really - Many (not all) Scots like to bash the English whenever they can. e.g. if England are playing rugby the Scots generally support the opposition....

Cheers

Mark




Never looked at that!!
Dunno why but when it comes to F1 i look upon it as Hamilton, Button, Davidson and COULTHARD - the 4 British drivers and support them all.

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