JeffJeffers
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posted on 9/8/10 at 10:05 PM |
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Engine fitting problems
I have got to admit my build has been going a little slow but at the weekend I decided I would try fitting my engine.
After a few hours of head scratching I decided it wasn't going to fit.
The bellhousing is to wide to go any futher down the tunnel.
Gearbox and engine needs to go alot futher back
Spoke to MK about it today and after they called me back I was told I have to cut the bellhousing to make it fit.
I must admit I'm a little disapointed I paid alot of money for a chassis to fit a Zetec engine and now I have to modify the engine to fit the
chassis. At no point did anyone tell me I would have to cut the bellhousing.
Has anyone fitted a Zetec to a Indy R yet with pictures of the mod to the bellhousing?
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theconrodkid
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posted on 9/8/10 at 10:13 PM |
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thats as far as the engine goes back infact it should come forward till you can get the gear lever in,no need to cut the bellhousing.
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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MakeEverything
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posted on 9/8/10 at 10:14 PM |
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Cant you get a remote for the gearbox and some additional / replacement mounts rather than weaken the bellhousing?
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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austin man
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posted on 9/8/10 at 10:14 PM |
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surely MK have some pictures they have built and supplied several but they where black tops. This makes no difference to the location of gear boc as
they are thesame. I think the indy R was more designes around bike engines
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Neil2004
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posted on 9/8/10 at 10:33 PM |
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You could use a remote gearleaver like the one shown on this Westfield website. It moves the gearleaver back 9 inches which should position the
gearleaver away from the scuttle and dashboard.
http://www.toyne.org.uk/kc-mods-gearbox.html
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JeffJeffers
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posted on 9/8/10 at 10:41 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by theconrodkid
thats as far as the engine goes back infact it should come forward till you can get the gear lever in,no need to cut the bellhousing.
Apartently the gear lever should come the other side of the brace.
I will have a look at the remote gearlever. I will also see if MK have any pictures of the modifid housing.
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Macbeast
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posted on 10/8/10 at 04:58 AM |
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But it looks as if the engine mounts will not line up with the mounting platforms on the chassis if the engine is any further forward.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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franky
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posted on 10/8/10 at 06:56 AM |
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If you told them that you were fitting a zetec and what gearbox and they sold you an engine to suit surely they should collect the chassis and modify
it to suit what it was ordered for?
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JeffJeffers
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posted on 11/8/10 at 10:10 PM |
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I cut the bellhousing today and have refitted the engine.
The gearbox fits a lot better in the tunnel but the engine doesnt seem to be square. Does it matter if the engine isn't square?
The gear lever is still in the wrong place. The gearbox is as far back as it goes because the length of the propshaft.
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procomp
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posted on 12/8/10 at 09:59 AM |
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Hi
It is quite common practice to cut bellhousings to move engines back. However it is normally done using alloy housings which can be easily re welded
and strengthened. Just cutting a cast iron housing is no good is wont have the strength left and dose not take to being r welded at allwell.
Also what you have there is a BEC chassis fitting a car engine in it is not going to be too good an idea as your fighting the small problems all the
way and it will need extra chassis mods.
Simply get them to supply the correct chassis or Carry out the modification required. Again another case of take the money and let the customer sort
the problems out.
Cheers Matt
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coozer
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posted on 12/8/10 at 10:06 AM |
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I'm with Matt there, I would have advised cutting the chassis to accommodate the bellhousing.
My mate, two in fact, have Indy's with zetecs in them and the I'm sure one of them will be along soon to advise.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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JeffJeffers
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posted on 12/8/10 at 12:43 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by procomp
It is quite common practice to cut bellhousings to move engines back. However it is normally done using alloy housings which can be easily re welded
and strengthened. Just cutting a cast iron housing is no good is wont have the strength left and dose not take to being r welded at allwell.
Also what you have there is a BEC chassis fitting a car engine in it is not going to be too good an idea as your fighting the small problems all the
way and it will need extra chassis mods.
Simply get them to supply the correct chassis or Carry out the modification required. Again another case of take the money and let the customer sort
the problems out.
I wasn't keen on cutting the bell housing but I decided I would be able to mig braze it. If I can get it all to fit I may think about getting a
alloy bell housing anyway.
I realize this chassis is used more for BEC but when I ordered it I told them what engine was being fitted. They have also said that they have fitted
Zetec engines in this chassis before.
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JeffJeffers
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posted on 12/8/10 at 09:07 PM |
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Does anyone have or know someone with a MK Indy R with a Zetec engine?
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procomp
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posted on 12/8/10 at 09:19 PM |
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Hi
Not a Zetec but there's the guy who races one in the 750 Kit car championship with a Toyota 4age setup. Not sure as to how much mods it has had
done though.
Cheers Matt
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