jimbona2
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 11:59 AM |
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it wont move when pushing the kit car? any ideas?
hi everyone,
any suggestions why my kit car wont move when I had it on wheels? The gear box is fittered (although not fittered by me), drive shafts etc...
the gear handle wouldnt move as though it was in gear so we took it out of gear and no joy. I took that bit out from within the gear box (i think it
makes the gear handle closer) but it still wouldnt move when pushing it. could it be a bad half shalf?
thanks, will get some photos of it tonight to help with any suggestions..
take care,
[Edited on 29/12/06 by jimbona2]
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indykid
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 12:06 PM |
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handbrake on? 
take the spark plugs out and try turning the engine with a ratchet. that'll tell you if it's in gear or not.
where in the world are you?
tom
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donut
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 12:15 PM |
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Usual thing is that the brakes are binding or in my case the new rear bearings (hub nuts) were tightened up as they should be but they prevented the
wheels from turning. Once moved around a few times and after a couple of runs (and a re tighten ) the rear wheels turned freely.
Hope this helps
Andy
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 12:24 PM |
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Clutch stuck to flywheel?
How long has it all been sitting?
How strong are you???
Tried a gentle tow?
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graememk
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 12:33 PM |
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mine wouldnt move for a start, new brakes disks etc, its ok now we towed it out the garage
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Avoneer
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 01:02 PM |
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Jack each corner up and spin each wheel to eliminate them.
Pat...
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jimbona2
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 02:07 PM |
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still reading through each comment but so far great advice... im in good old cambridge, where we live in castles and eat tea (i wish)...
theres no handbrake although my lack of knowledge maybe theres a bit of it there that Im not aware of..
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The Baron
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 02:18 PM |
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Had something very similar happen to me. I had kept my engine outside for a year, and didn’t check the clutch when I fitted into the car. Everything
was stuck!!!!!
Had to remove the engine and replace the clutch, It had ceased onto the fly wheel and had to be removed with a chisel.
Hope this helps.
The Baron
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BenB
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 02:22 PM |
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When I tried to move the car for the first time it wouldn't move at all....
I'd forgotten to put the 10mm spacer plates on , so the wheel was jamming on the brake caliper.. Doh. 
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jimbona2
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 02:30 PM |
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thanks again.
basically i bought that car with the engine, prop shaft fittered but since then i've fittered the complete back unit (drive shafts, wishbones
etc..) and without wheels I can turn either shaft to make the other one turn in the opposite direction but when I put wheels on it gets very hard to
turn. (this is off the ground..) when on the ground its impossible to push.
one thing i've remembered after writing this is that the wheels are 13" when I think they need to be 14 or more.. could that be the
problem (which i'll check when I get some 14"+ wheels)..
note the drums (or front brake discs) are not fittered as yet..
p.s. anyone got any wheels I could buy!? 
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GavBurns
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 02:34 PM |
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The first kit I built I had the same problem. The cars I had before it were vauxhalls and the wheel bearings had to be tightened up tight and thats
what I did with the kit car, but Ford wheel bearings should just be nipped-up untill theres no play. Try that if not try lifting each corner and check
that the brakes aren't fouling.
Go BEC you'll never look back (literally)!!
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Avoneer
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| posted on 29/12/06 at 03:45 PM |
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13" will foul the rear upright on the Avon.
Pat...
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snippy
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| posted on 1/1/07 at 09:36 PM |
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Jimbona,
if I`m reading this correctly you have a freewheeling chassis with no brakes fitted, but there is some form of severe resistance. I would go back to
basics and recheck your components as a process of elimination. Undo the prop from the rear diff and try spinning the wheels again. If they are still
hard to turn then perhaps the diff is worn? If they do spin, the diff and rear wheel bearings must be o.k. Maybe then the problem is the gearbox?
Nick
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t.j.
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| posted on 2/1/07 at 08:58 AM |
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looks like stuck in 2 gears!
Check if you can turn you driveshaft.
If not, the check why.
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jimbona2
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| posted on 2/1/07 at 01:21 PM |
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ok will do, let you know. thanks
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snippy
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| posted on 2/1/07 at 09:41 PM |
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Jim,
what Engine and gearbox set up have you got?
Nick
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jimbona2
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| posted on 6/1/07 at 02:58 PM |
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any suggestions how to release the flywheel/ clutch? thanks mate.
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jimbona2
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| posted on 6/1/07 at 02:59 PM |
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got a silver top 2 litre zetec (new type) engine. not sure what the gear box is...
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t.j.
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| posted on 6/1/07 at 08:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jimbona2
any suggestions how to release the flywheel/ clutch? thanks mate.
The clutch is probably "glued/sticky"
The only 3 way's.
1. clutchpedal pushed and pull/push car forward. If you're lucky it will come lose.
2. clutchpedal pushed and start engine.
(not a really option..... without...)
3. dismount engine and gearbox.
BTW. so if you push the car in 4th gear you turn your engine?
[Edited on 6/1/07 by t.j.]
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Peteff
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| posted on 7/1/07 at 11:12 AM |
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but Ford wheel bearings should just be nipped-up untill theres no play.
GavBurns, don't try this with Sierra bearings. They should be tightened to the figure in the book and run to free themselves off. The nipping up
only applies to Cortina/Escort type taper bearings. If you can get it in neutral it should push so it must be at the wheels. Whereabouts are you?
someone may have some 14" donor wheels for you to wheel it round on.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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jimbona2
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 05:52 PM |
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not sure wot it is but somethings definitely stopping it. i've tried to change gear but thats completely stuck.
I took the gear stick out and removed the bit the gear stick sits on to make it more reachable when fully built. Then placing the gear stick directly
onto the fixture without the bit in between it still doesnt move... arhhh
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t.j.
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 08:44 PM |
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1. If you jack up your rear. Or dismount your drive-shaft.
2. try to turn your engine by turning the engine. if possible then your gearbox is not stuck.
3. Then push your clutch and turn your engine. If the driveshaft still keeps turning your clutch is stuck.
So please try that first.......
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Ian Barraclough
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 01:25 PM |
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13"
I have 13 " wheels fitted to my Avon But it was painfull they will hit the top wishbone bolt you have to cut the bolt about 1mm longer than the
nilock its very close I fitted 3mm wheel spacers and it was fine .I eventually made some new top wishbones when I converted to disc brakes to sort the
problem.
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jimbona2
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| posted on 9/2/07 at 07:17 PM |
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hi everyone,
i've tried turning the engine and it wont budge. think the next step is to lift the engine out and check the clutch and gearbox. would you
agree? I would like to know for sure what this problem is rather than fixing it blind and driving it in year 2050 with it cropping up to bite to me
in the arse
thanks in advance.
[Edited on 9/2/07 by jimbona2]
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t.j.
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| posted on 9/2/07 at 08:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jimbona2
hi everyone,
i've tried turning the engine and it wont budge. think the next step is to lift the engine out and check the clutch and gearbox. would you
agree? I would like to know for sure what this problem is rather than fixing it blind and driving it in year 2050 with it cropping up to bite to me
in the arse
thanks in advance.
[Edited on 9/2/07 by jimbona2]
Let someone push the clutch and try to rotate the engine.
If not poss: then your clutch is "glued-sticky" to your fly-wheel.
If poss: Your gearbox is stuck.
To release your clutch: dirty trick but works in most cases. clutch-pedal to the ground brakes on, start your engine.(must release at ones,
don't ruin you starter!!! by holding to long!)
[Edited on 9/2/07 by t.j.]
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