wilkingj
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 11:38 AM |
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Which is the best Diesel Engine?
I am having a silly thought, as one does!.
I am thinking of chaning the engine for a Diesel.
OK, with not a lot of weight a Diesel should go fairly well. However, it wouldnt sound that good.
Anyone go any good ideas for a decent compact powerful diesel.
Like the Audo V6 diesel gives 150bhp, and they go fairly well, and should perform reasonably well in a Locost.
Any other ideas from the team??
Almost certainly be turbo'd to get any performance at all.
Thanks in advance
[Edited on 12/10/2007 by wilkingj]
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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worX
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 11:43 AM |
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I always remember the topgear episode when clarkson drove the Audi (I think it was an audi anyway!) to scotland and back on the one tank... Was it the
W10 engine in an A8?
Steve
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lsdweb
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 11:50 AM |
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I've got the V6 in my A4 - it's 220BHP and 330 lbs ft of torque! The car goes from 50 to 150 like a train.......
I'd say the engine's a bit big and heavy for a '7'.
Wyn
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 11:51 AM |
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Well...
the V6 would be a weighty option for 150Bhp
Volkswagen
the PD150 is a 4 cyl option with the same power out put it would be less weighty. this can be chipped to 180 to 190 bhp.
the PD130 can be chipped to about 170 bhp.
these are FWD and so would need adaptors and a GOOD strong Box.
then there is BMW already a RWD.
the 2.5 straight 6 from the 325, and early 525.
the 3.0 straight 6 from the 530 and 330.
the 1.8tds
the 2.0 straight 4 from the 320d.
these in the latest form range from 143bhp in the 318 to 204bhp in the 123d( but i suspect that you wont find one of these as they have only been out
a couple of weeks.
i have a new 318d and it has an ace engine but full of electronics.
for a locost option how about the 1.8td from the last of the sierra
 this is what westfield used and the power was upped to 105bhp and was lively
what ever you use be prepared for the tractor comparrisons 
ditch
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Marcus
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 11:54 AM |
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I'd look at the 2.4 5 pot Alfa / Fiat engine.
Around 170 bhp, chippable to over 200!
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:00 PM |
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The bloke i sold my 3.14 sierra diff was building a Westie over in Ireland with a diesel engine. The build was being featured in Practical Performance
Car I think he said.
Anyone seen this at all???
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arrybradbury
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:00 PM |
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3 litre diesel from the 330d gets my vote if you can find one!! Rapid in the saloon let alone in something half the weight!!
Editted to add the new 3 litre diesel in the X3 is pushing out 286hp
[Edited on 12/10/07 by arrybradbury]
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dan__wright
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:01 PM |
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vaux cdti 1.9 150, remap sees big gains . the 888 astra uses this engine (tweaked map) and rivals the astra vxr!
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE
!!
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:02 PM |
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The only deisels i have driven are our vans. The kangoo is s**t but the fiat doblo 1.9 has a really good one and so does our ford transit 1.8 and that
has a turbo. They dont have much power but they can outrun most chavs, especially the transit 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:06 PM |
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The BMW TD diesel in the R75 and FreeLander is pretty good, identical performance to the 1,8 K but putting it in a light sevenish car might not work.
[I] What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:11 PM |
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D5
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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iank
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:15 PM |
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Be better with one of the new small all alloy 16V diesels, assuming you can get a rwd gearbox glued on.
Something like the 1.6 TDCi from the new Focus
or even the 1.3 from the recent Fiats and Corsa.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Marcus
I'd look at the 2.4 5 pot Alfa / Fiat engine.
Around 170 bhp, chippable to over 200!
But that's petrol......
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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wilkingj
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:20 PM |
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Hmm Keep the ideas coming, I have a 3.38 diff to help things alone a but. Plently of torque and the right gearing, and low weight should go fairly
well.
Well AS for weight, me and the Son weigh in at 41 Stones between us (260Kgs of us sitting in an 800Kg Car), so a few more Kg's of
engine wont matter too much,
Its a Viento, so plenty of room.
Also thought of the 6.2 Litre v8 GM Engine (diesel from a Hummer).
OK only 160Bhp to start with, but with turbo's will go to 250bhp plus, and 400 plus Ft Lbs. might need a different geaboxs and back axle
though!
Plus its a V8.
More Crazy Ideas please.. after all its Friday afternoon.
Geoff
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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wilkingj
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
D5
Err forgive my iggerance... Is that a Volvo engine?
If so, in line?, and howmany bhp's
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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graememk
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:22 PM |
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i think vauxhal do a 1.3 dti now around the 90ps area
also wasnt gbs doing a diesel a few months ago ?
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arrybradbury
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 12:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
D5
Err forgive my iggerance... Is that a Volvo engine?
If so, in line?, and howmany bhp's
2.4D all-aluminium five-cylinder turbo diesel engine - 163bhp - i think......
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 01:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by arrybradbury
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
D5
Err forgive my iggerance... Is that a Volvo engine?
If so, in line?, and howmany bhp's
2.4D all-aluminium five-cylinder turbo diesel engine - 163bhp - i think......
and ive just ordered an adapter plate to getrag for_not_much_money
tuners in sweden use the block for petrol turbos running 1000hp .
the diesels can pump out 400nm 185 hp in euro 4 spec , 225 , 460 nm chipped .
[Edited on 12/10/07 by Volvorsport]
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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macspeedy
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 01:49 PM |
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how about vw based
mk 2 turbo diesel golf
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macspeedy
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 02:24 PM |
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heres some more on going work my brother is involved in
vw caddy
its running considerably more than this at the moment but i can't say how much !!
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macspeedy
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 02:26 PM |
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here some more amazing stuff for bmw nutters
bmw blogg
pics link
[Edited on 12/10/07 by macspeedy]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 04:10 PM |
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To put things in perpective BMW TD4 as fitted to Rover 75 is 124 kg heavier than the Rover K16 1.8
Roughly 1/8th of a ton
[I] What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Simon
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 05:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by arrybradbury
3 litre diesel from the 330d gets my vote if you can find one!! Rapid in the saloon let alone in something half the weight!!
Editted to add the new 3 litre diesel in the X3 is pushing out 286hp
[Edited on 12/10/07 by arrybradbury]
That's what I was going to suggest as my new diff has just arrived. It's from one of them, with a final drive ratio of 2.28:1.
Prod car limited to 155, 60 just under 7 secs!
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 12/10/07 by Simon]
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SixedUp
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 07:38 PM |
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I have the BMW 2.5 diesel in my 525 estate. About 177bhp and 295lb/ft torque. Pulls like a train, even in such a big and heavy car. The 3.0 is the
same, but more so. However, these are NOT small engines ...
However, if you're happy with big, what about the Audi 4.2 V8 TDi? 326bhp & 479lb/ft ?
Cheers
Richard
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darrens
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| posted on 12/10/07 at 07:50 PM |
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i think your nuts, nuts I say!! just think what the sound track is gonna be like. boo
just my two penny worth
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