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Supergoose - 5/3/12 at 09:27 PM

Frankly im propper peed off that i have to sit a driving course to obtain my licence, its not like racing costs arn't large enough!!

I do understand that these courses are supposed to be to protect the rest other competors, but having sat the ACU class room test i pretty much know what im going to get for my money.

Please tell me these courses offer value and arn't a big waste of time and money?


loggyboy - 5/3/12 at 10:09 PM

Its like anything, you may think you know everything, you may even acctually know everything, but you still have to prove it!
It cant really be a waste of money, as even if you dont know it, youll learn it, and if you know it already, you still need the certificate to prove it!


MK9R - 5/3/12 at 11:12 PM

You wont pass with an attitude like that!


JacksAvon - 6/3/12 at 12:58 AM

Having been involved in ARDS instruction and with ARDS instructors, an 'attitude', should the student decide to bring one to his/her test day will soon be spotted and will not go down well.

I have seen very bright people fail the written and very good drivers fail the practical.
Equally, numpties have passed the written and plonkers passed the practical.

The test, both practical and written is relatively simple.
The price is the bad part.

But, if you want to circuit race in this country you have to start somewhere and everyone starts with an ARDS test.

They are neither a waste of time or money.
You must spend the money and take the time to complete it if you want a licence.

Yes racing is expensive and the cheapest thing you are likely to pay for is the MSA Approved sticker the scutineer will put on your crash helmet at your first meeting.

Before you take the plunge, it is is best to work out your expenses in season 1, if this does not put you off, then carry on.

and enjoy


steveiow - 6/3/12 at 08:14 AM

If you dont like the cost of the test then racing isnt for you. Are you going to moan about the entry fees next?

As for the ARDS - here is my experience:

http://www.sewc.co.uk/?page_id=96


Supergoose - 6/3/12 at 09:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by JacksAvon
Having been involved in ARDS instruction and with ARDS instructors, an 'attitude', should the student decide to bring one to his/her test day will soon be spotted and will not go down well.

I have seen very bright people fail the written and very good drivers fail the practical.
Equally, numpties have passed the written and plonkers passed the practical.

The test, both practical and written is relatively simple.
The price is the bad part.

But, if you want to circuit race in this country you have to start somewhere and everyone starts with an ARDS test.

They are neither a waste of time or money.
You must spend the money and take the time to complete it if you want a licence.

Yes racing is expensive and the cheapest thing you are likely to pay for is the MSA Approved sticker the scutineer will put on your crash helmet at your first meeting.

Before you take the plunge, it is is best to work out your expenses in season 1, if this does not put you off, then carry on.

and enjoy


Thanks for being objective, I have been racing bikes since 2007 competitively in club racing, I am aware that racing takes over more than just you check book. I'm sorry I had a moan but I am human and who doesn’t have a moan about the costs of racing, i.e. when the kids haven’t eaten that week so you can run at Brands!!! I don't really have an attitude and I think when I see you all in the paddock you learn that I’m here to have fun first and foremost.

Sreve i read you report, and i think the 750 motorclub costs for track time are a bargin. Very similar to what im used to but i had the addition £450 of tyres and i moaned about that to lol.


eddie99 - 6/3/12 at 10:00 AM

Yep as above, if the ARDS test price puts you off, racing will be too expensive for you.

I think its one of the better value tests because it enables you to circuit race!!!


Supergoose - 6/3/12 at 11:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Yep as above, if the ARDS test price puts you off, racing will be too expensive for you.

I think its one of the better value tests because it enables you to circuit race!!! [/quote
It doesn't put me off!!! Read my above comment


steveiow - 6/3/12 at 11:03 AM

Look forward to seeing you in the paddock. If you haven't raced locosts before you are in for a real treat. Its fantastic (not that I am biaised at all)


thefreak - 6/3/12 at 12:22 PM

I did mine last friday and was surprised how easy it was 90% of the written questions are common sense ie what's understeer, what do you do when your car's on fire etc.

You need to know all the flags and when they're waived and stationary otherwise you'll fail, but the questions ask you about a situation and what flag you would expect to see.

The practical is very straight forward. The instructor doesn't want to see you set lap records, heel and toe or trailbrake, just to know your lines, braking/turn in points and good awareness around you.

Yes, at £300 for a morning, it's not cheap, but what part of racing is? EVERYONE wants £300 for a different part.
£300 for the licence
£300 for the suit
£300 membership to the BRSCC
£300 championship entrance fee
£300 a round to race
£300 for a set of tyres
£300 a weekend to cover travel, hotels, food, bribes etc

Getting someone to sponsor you for some part of the season will help, but the majority will still be coming out of your pocket


JacksAvon - 7/3/12 at 12:37 AM

BRSCC membership £300..................... £150 surely


thefreak - 7/3/12 at 08:37 AM

£150... may as well be £300


Supergoose - 7/3/12 at 08:13 PM

Can't use my bike helmets how much for a car one, you guessed it £300


loggyboy - 7/3/12 at 08:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Supergoose
Can't use my bike helmets how much for a car one, you guessed it £300

£150
http://www.plays-kool.co.uk/acatalog/Full_Face_Helmets.html#a313


Supergoose - 7/3/12 at 10:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by Supergoose
Can't use my bike helmets how much for a car one, you guessed it £300

£150
http://www.plays-kool.co.uk/acatalog/Full_Face_Helmets.html#a313


That will do nicely


Supergoose - 7/3/12 at 10:43 PM

What a great site!! wonder if get a few £££ off for the full set?


JacksAvon - 8/3/12 at 12:10 AM

If BRSCC membership is £150 but may as well be £300

Surely the same applies to the £150 playskool helmet

Fairs fair


Nick DV - 8/3/12 at 09:29 AM

And these http://www.hedtec.co.uk/hedtec_hans.htm

Cheers, Nick