As some of you know i used to have an MG midget which i sold on ebay just over a year ago. The buyer said he would post the v5 to DVLA.
Today, i have received a 'Failure to relicense vehicle' penalty of £80, dropped to £40 if paid by 26/12/09.
Iv searched high and low but cannot find the address of the guy who brought it.
Do i have any options here but to pay the fine and declare it as scrap?
is it too old to use the view order function on Ebay?
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Originally posted by speedyxjs
The buyer said he would post the v5 to DVLA.
It was your (the sellers) responsibility to post the V5. I'd speak to them and say yiou posted it to them when you sold the vehicle and it must have got lost.
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Originally posted by eznfrank
is it too old to use the view order function on Ebay?
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Originally posted by MK9R
It was your (the sellers) responsibility to post the V5. I'd speak to them and say yiou posted it to them when you sold the vehicle and it must have got lost.
yes highly likely that would work, but in future make sure you fill out and send the V5 because all sorts can happen.
the buyer should leave your place with only the new owner supplement.
I sold the kit in June and posted off my bit of the V5 to the DVLA. I got an acknowledgement a few weeks later. The car is then registered as not
mine. The new owner should then register the car as theirs.
You should have posted your bit of the V5 off. Things frequently get lost in the post, don't they?
I had something similar, sold a car to a dealer with my private plate on it, signed everything and all was ok.
I got a letter from the dvla contain a v5 for a car i never owned displaying a reg i never owned, so ignored it, like you do...
I then got a letter saying i owed them £40 for failure to say a car with the reg above had been re-registered.
I called them up saying i never recieved such a letter, and the reg they were on about, i had never owed a car with that reg.
But in the end i had to pay!!!!!! just to get them off my case.
But deep down i knew it had been my fault.
You should have put his address on the front part and sent it off. I'd do the lost in post bit as well or tell them a dealer bought it and took the whole V5.
Iv found his ebay name but he is now no longer a registered user
oh yes these get lost in the post on a regular basis, usually a polite letter stating when you posted the v5 does the trick.
Also sorn declarations and scrapped car notifications get lost in post frequently
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Originally posted by speedyxjs
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Originally posted by MK9R
It was your (the sellers) responsibility to post the V5. I'd speak to them and say yiou posted it to them when you sold the vehicle and it must have got lost.
Do you think that would work?
With your posh accent it should be no bother to talk your way out of this one.
Just write down what you want to say and clearly and politely tell the call center peeps that you sent it off in september and you no longer own
it.
If you are nice to them you get your way.......it works on the call center people i speak to. They get so many callers that are rude when one nice one
comes along they are more receptive to derran browns suggestive techniques....
cheers guys, i assume i should send the cheque at the same time and hope they send it back?
Don't send the money! Bloomin ek, they will jast cash it and your query will also get lost!
I had this problem a few years back, I refused to pay, ended up wih a debt collction agency chasing me. A few strongly worded letters and they stopped
bothering me.
It never got sorted but I haven't heard anything for about 3 years now, so I guess it has gone away.
Im just a bit worried the might 'lose' this one and il end up paying more
Tell them you posted it, and it most likely got lost in their internal mail...
They can not prove in law that you did not send the letter, and cannot resonably expect you to deliver the item in person, therefore they can bring no
charges against you...
Someone on another website went to court over this little joy and kicked the DVLAs backside!
Having said that... in the small print for the V5 it does state that it is YOUR responsibility to fill it in, and if you send it off and hear nothing
back from the DVLA within 21 days or something, you should get in contact with them.... so tehcnically you would have known that it was(not)
re-registered because you didnt recieve the letter... and didnt contact them to tell them of that fact...
But worth a punt anyway!
[Edited on 26/11/09 by tegwin]
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Originally posted by speedyxjs
Im just a bit worried the might 'lose' this one and il end up paying more
Having just done something similar, sadly its your responsibility to make sure the change of ownership has gone through! So if you didn't hear anything after 3 weeks, your supposed to contact them with the details etc. Otherwise everyone could dodge tax on a vehicle and say it got lost in the post!
Ooops!! Guess you wont be taking anyone's word for it when they say they'll post the V5 again - i bet the guy had no intention of posting it
myself!!
Have you checked the Askmid site to see if the car is insured at the moment? If it is then may be worth mentioning it to DVLA - i'd ring them
rather than write straight away. They're generally pretty good about it all.
He was using it for parts. I checked anyway and its not insured
Thats a bugger - so little chance of tracing the guy then!!
So did you complete the form with him for change of ownership or put that the vehicle was being scrapped?? Seems like there's the two options you
can approach the DVLA with - i'd probably go with the scrapped option myself in this case
I had this before, they said it was my responsibility to make sure I received the confirmation letter and not receiving it meant that I still owned it. Ended up having to pay the fourth pounds after lots of letters back and forth! They never gave up and threatened all sorts of legal action. W@nkers
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Originally posted by Steve G
i'd ring them rather than write straight away. They're generally pretty good about it all.
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Originally posted by cd.thomson
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Originally posted by Steve G
i'd ring them rather than write straight away. They're generally pretty good about it all.
Have you tried ringing the DVLA recently? they only employ one human being in their call centre and all he does is turn the power on in the morning and off at night
as said already be very carefull... I would pay it and send letter explaining it has been sold. I had a similar issue in the past and tried arguing
it.... I ended up with a CCJ against my otherwise unblemished credit history
Write a letter stating when you sold it and that you sent the V5. They cant check it either way. Ring and tell them that aswell and to put a hold on
the fine.
i always photo copy the V5 with the persons details on it before i send it away and keep it until you have the letter saying youv sold it. That way
you have proof of who and when it went to.
Thanks for the replys guys. Iv sent it of without the cheque but have made a copy so if i havnt heard anything in a few weeks, il send the copy with the cheque.