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VIN plate stamping
steve8274 - 28/3/12 at 09:55 PM

hello all
quick query.
can the chassis number be engraved onto the vin plate or does it have to be stamped?
i have stamped onto chassis. this is the secondary plate which can be riveted on.
thanks
steve

russbost - 28/3/12 at 10:03 PM

You don't have to have the second plate (tho' I always fit one) so yes you could draw on it with crayon if you want as long as the no. is permanently marked in the correct place on the chassis itself - incidentally I always engrave that on rather than stamping which if done directly on the chassis rail distorts & damages the tube. I've never had any query re the engraving of the chassis no. either at IVA or from DVLA

loggyboy - 28/3/12 at 10:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by russbost
You don't have to have the second plate (tho' I always fit one) so yes you could draw on it with crayon if you want as long as the no. is permanently marked in the correct place on the chassis itself - incidentally I always engrave that on rather than stamping which if done directly on the chassis rail distorts & damages the tube. I've never had any query re the engraving of the chassis no. either at IVA or from DVLA


Could you clarify? My reading of the IVA manual is that a car must have both:

1.
The vehicle must be fitted with a manufacturer’s plate, in a conspicuous and readily accessible position.

and

7. The Stamped in VIN must be marked on the chassis, frame or other similar structure which is not easily removable, on the right hand side of the vehicle when viewed from the rear. (see note 5, 7 & 8)

russbost - 29/3/12 at 08:00 AM

My apologies, certainly looks like I've got that wrong, but that was exactly what was said to me by a tester at IVA around a year to eighteen months ago - I wasn't aware of a change since then so would appear he also had it wrong (which isn't too surprising when you consider the shear volume of the IVA content!)

Re the original Q:-

"Note 1: For markings to be considered 'indelible' they should be unlikely to become disfigured or obliterated during the life of the vehicle. Whilst stamping or engraving is preferable it is possible to accept a printed or painted plate providing it has been treated in such a way that it is most unlikely that essential information would be obliterated or defaced during the normal life of the vehicle."

So engraving defo ok

Dickyboy - 29/3/12 at 12:07 PM

Not sure if this is a confusion but the examiner made up a "manufacturers plate" for me (hadn't realised I needed one) a laminated card with LOCOST and the VIN number printed on it glued to the bulkhead, the VIN number was already stamped in the appropriate place. The manufacturers plate has to reflect the make of the vehicle, as I understand it, but obviously doesn't have to be in a certain place or type of fixing.

steve8274 - 31/3/12 at 12:21 PM

thanks for responses.
the rules also state it has be stamped using letters 3.5mm or bigger so if i get it engraved above this size all should be fine?
steve