Hi guys,

I've recently bought a half built 'Single donor Vehicle' Westfield..

Its been started by the previous owner but i have alot of work to do getting it ready for road registering..

I have no receipts for anything on the car.. I have never carried out an IVA test before can anyone tell me about the best route to go about registering a westfield kit with no paperwork?

Ideally id like to go with either a new plate or an Age related plate of the donor car (sierra but have no tax book either)

If all else fails i will go for a Q-Plater.. are there any advantages of going Q Plate.. did i read that the test less strict for emissions etc?

The car is at the moment half built with a Zetec engine, sierra box, diff, hubs, rear brakes etc.



Any advice would be great as i feel like its something i need to consider now at this stage of the build if i need to create a paper trail.

Thanks

The donor V5 is the main consern if you want an age related
A reciept from the bloke you bought it off would help even a printed email shows a trail
Can Westfield help in any way?
From this point forward photos some with you in them of everything you do
Reciepts of everything you buy from now on however small
This will start to build evidence

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Originally posted by snapper
The donor V5 is the main consern if you want an age related
A reciept from the bloke you bought it off would help even a printed email shows a trail
Can Westfield help in any way?
From this point forward photos some with you in them of everything you do
Reciepts of everything you buy from now on however small
This will start to build evidence

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tbh, there's no problem at all with a Q plate. there is talk that for MOT its emissions only, but i wouldn't bank on it. if you want to look into it, there's many thousands of threads on here about it.

for a Q you don't need any receipts really (which is good, coz i don't have any...) so should be a faily straight forward process
if you want an age related plate you might struggle if you don't have the donors V5
and if the parts are form a single donor, you shouldn't be able to really get a new plate, as you need to have built it out of new parts, and have proof for all of it by receipts (except for engine and gearbox for example)

its never as black and white as that though^ there's many variations and people who seem to have got different things without too much problems

if you're happy with a Q, save yourself the hassle and go for it

if you need receipts, do you ave a printer and MS Word and/or powerpoint?

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Originally posted by blakep82

if you need receipts, do you ave a printer and MS Word and/or powerpoint?

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The reciepts are as much about proving you are an amateur builder - if you cant show that, you have to go via a different route to get on the road. It isn't just about the reg plate at the end.

My car was a part built - but I was lucky that it came with reciepts from the previous builder for all the bits he had bought (and he had bought the chassis from someone else as a prt built car!). You will need proof of age for your engine, so you can write to Ford with the engine number for that. I would assue you are going to strip down and rebuild anyway, as is customary with a part-built? If so, take photos from that stage to show you were the one putting it together.

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Originally posted by Benzo

But how does it work that the car now has a Zetec engine which was never in a sierra?

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Originally posted by twybrow
The reciepts are as much about proving you are an amateur builder - if you cant show that, you have to go via a different route to get on the road. It isn't just about the reg plate at the end.

My car was a part built - but I was lucky that it came with reciepts from the previous builder for all the bits he had bought (and he had bought the chassis from someone else as a prt built car!). You will need proof of age for your engine, so you can write to Ford with the engine number for that. I would assue you are going to strip down and rebuild anyway, as is customary with a part-built? If so, take photos from that stage to show you were the one putting it together.

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Originally posted by Benzo

But how does it work that the car now has a Zetec engine which was never in a sierra?

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You only need 2 major components from a donor, so it doesnt have to be engine and another, it could be gearbox and steering (or gearbox and driveshafts etc etc) (major components acceptable or on the DVLA form)

Its also worth noting that IVA is nothing to do with registering. IVA will want to know engine age (for emmisions) and thats about it. DVLA will want to know all about the source of the rest of the parts.

PS I have sierra donor that im ulikely to be using the V5 for as I plan to replace all the donor parts with new ones, im just using the donor ones to get the car built. I will then be selling the 'donor kit' which will come with the v5 and all ID tags. Wont be for quite a few (6+) months so if you still need a donor towards the middle of next year u2u me then!!

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if the photo above is the state its in now, it'll be worth spending a day taking it all apart, and photographing it going back together again. you don't really need to go into everything apart, like removing suspension bushes and stuff, but take the uprights and wishbones off, steering rack and collumn out, engine out (you bought the engine in EXACTLY the state its in now after all ) you know what i mean, just enough to get the photos of it being built back up

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Originally posted by blakep82
if the photo above is the state its in now, it'll be worth spending a day taking it all apart, and photographing it going back together again. you don't really need to go into everything apart, like removing suspension bushes and stuff, but take the uprights and wishbones off, steering rack and collumn out, engine out (you bought the engine in EXACTLY the state its in now after all ) you know what i mean, just enough to get the photos of it being built back up

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Originally posted by Benzo

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Originally posted by loggyboy

PS I have sierra donor that im ulikely to be using the V5 for as I plan to replace all the donor parts with new ones, im just using the donor ones to get the car built. I will then be selling the 'donor kit' which will come with the v5 and all ID tags. Wont be for quite a few (6+) months so if you still need a donor towards the middle of next year u2u me then!!

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Ok so what are the ID tags? the chassis plate? if i had these a V5 and some pictures of the car with no. plates on would that been enough to prove to DVLA?

Engine age can it be a note from local ford dealership Parts man? on headed paper? something like that?

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