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Good day but an IVA fail
pekwah1 - 1/8/13 at 05:40 PM

Well an excellent day at Yeading for my IVA, the tester (Gordon) was very helpful, let me tinker where i needed to and was general fair.

The fails are as follows:

02B - METERED EMISSIONS - Hydrocarbon level too high
I think my engine (1300 xflow) is running too rich so need to try tuning the carb or rejetting etc

03A - FUEL TANKS - Fuel pipe from tank to pump insecure
Just need smaller P clips as there is too much movement at the moment

09B - SERVICE BRAKE CONTROL - No anti-slip covering on pedals
Obviously just need to put something on the pedals!

09B - Not enough thread through nyloc on pivot bolt
Just need a lower profile nut on the bolt, the current one is quite fat

09D - HYDRAULIC AND VACUUM SYSTEMS - Near front brake pipe to caliper twisted
Not sure how i missed this, but pipe is just bolted at the wrong angle, just need to move!

09E - BRAKE PERFORMANCE - Measured at 35.67%
This is because the rear brakes are not operating off the brake cylinder, no idea why, will look into this

16 - EXTERIOR PROJECTIONS - Track rod end lock nuts need covering
Easy fix with some rubber

28 - REAR FOG LAMPS - Works with ignition off
Just need to change the wiring to work off ignition live rather than perm. live

46 - TYRES - No E mark on front offside tyre
He didn't mention this one to me, will need to go and check...

GC - GENERAL CONSTRUCTION - Steering column welded (not factory fit)
He wanted evidence that the welding on the steering column was of adequate strength and will not break.
Not really sure on this, i said i would get a letter from the company that did it and see if they are happy with that.
Otherwise no idea!!!

So not too bad a list really, could be a lot worse, guess i've got some more work to do and get it re-tested!
Only bummer was that had a bit of a breakdown on the way home, the throttle assembly came loose on the carb and jammed on the way home, no real biggy, but it sounds like my release bearing also decided to self destruct at the same time as it is making a fricking horrendous noise now when i come off the power or press the clutch.... oh well only £10 i guess, just a PITA!!!!!







Cheers,
Andy


bob - 1/8/13 at 05:59 PM

I've met Gordon at Yeading a couple of times, he seems pretty fair in fact layed back which is good.

Not a bad fail list though, most of us have use the electrical cable glands to cover the track rod end nuts.


pekwah1 - 1/8/13 at 06:06 PM

Yeah he is very laid back, we were having a good ol' chin wag with him during the process and he even went to the extent of 'letting me off' a couple of items that were on the border...
Really nice guy and again, very fair tester!

Track rods are easy, just need to concentrate on the emissions, brakes, and release bearing, other stuff should be straight forward.

Oh yeh, forgot to also mention my car weight (with a full tank of fuel).

350kgs?!?!?!

I questioned him and said he must have got it wrong but he is insisting it was correct.
It was weighed one axle at a time on a roller thingy....


britishtrident - 1/8/13 at 07:36 PM

Rear brakes not operating --- if you have a balance bar then it sounds like you haven't given trunnions on the master cylinder push rods enough clearance from the centre tube that is welded to the pedal. They need a few mm clearance to allow the balance bar to pivot.


Davegtst - 1/8/13 at 09:05 PM

Lucky you didn't get Luther!


gremlin1234 - 2/8/13 at 12:04 AM

sounds fair, and little that would have been picked up in pre-iva pictures,

for the steering column, can you drill and pin through the welded section?


iank - 2/8/13 at 05:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by pekwah1
Yeah he is very laid back, we were having a good ol' chin wag with him during the process and he even went to the extent of 'letting me off' a couple of items that were on the border...
Really nice guy and again, very fair tester!

Track rods are easy, just need to concentrate on the emissions, brakes, and release bearing, other stuff should be straight forward.

Oh yeh, forgot to also mention my car weight (with a full tank of fuel).

350kgs?!?!?!

I questioned him and said he must have got it wrong but he is insisting it was correct.
It was weighed one axle at a time on a roller thingy....


You can't just add the two axle weights together to get the total weight (it's been covered on here a number of times). Still going the be a very light car.

Good luck fixing the bits and pieces.


steve m - 2/8/13 at 07:24 AM

Andy

Not a bad fail at all !!

From memory you are just using the original brake setup, ie just one master cylinder, so it can only be a blockage, or net bled enough ?

Ive got some "c" pins that you could drill through the steering column, as I did that with mine

I was under the impression that xflows were exempt from IVA regs (I could be very wrong)

The other bits are very easy to sort

regards

steve


loggyboy - 2/8/13 at 07:49 AM

When I had my car on a weigh bridge, it was big enough for the whole car, but I also weighed the front and rear axels seperately, adding the 2 together came to within 5kgs of the weight when having both axles on the scale.


iank - 2/8/13 at 08:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
When I had my car on a weigh bridge, it was big enough for the whole car, but I also weighed the front and rear axels seperately, adding the 2 together came to within 5kgs of the weight when having both axles on the scale.


The difference depends on the angle of the car, if it's absolutely level then there is no difference.
So it depends on the equipment used how much the difference is (imagine the car at 45 degrees - as an extreme case - most of the weight will be taken on the non-measured wheels. Turn the car around and the same happens).


corrado vr6 - 2/8/13 at 10:07 AM

Going back to your fog light issue,

Did it fail due to you hadn't wired it to work off of your dipped switch?

Or can your dipped lights only work with the ignition on?

I've just read the iva manual and it doesn't say anything about the fog light only working with ignition on

Confused???


pekwah1 - 2/8/13 at 11:52 AM

It is because the fog light is operational without dipped beam.
Somehow I have managed to wire the dipped beam on battery live instead of ignition but the dipped beam will not operate without the ignition, but the fog light will.
I need to just check my relays, pretty sure this will be nice and easy


Slimy38 - 2/8/13 at 01:09 PM

Could I ask about a couple of the fails? First one, the tyre. How did you find a tyre without an E-mark, I'd have thought all tyres from the last decade would have suitable markings? Or is there a currently available tyre that doesn't meet the requirements?

The second one relates to the pedals, 09B. Which pedals have to be non-slip? My donor has screwed on pedal covers, and they're all nice and smooth!


britishtrident - 2/8/13 at 03:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
Could I ask about a couple of the fails? First one, the tyre. How did you find a tyre without an E-mark, I'd have thought all tyres from the last decade would have suitable markings? Or is there a currently available tyre that doesn't meet the requirements?

The second one relates to the pedals, 09B. Which pedals have to be non-slip? My donor has screwed on pedal covers, and they're all nice and smooth!



Pedal anti-slip is also an MOT test item, it has been for a long time, in effect:

Brake & clutch pedal rubber covers should not be worn smooth.
Brake & clutch pedals that don't have rubbers covers should have grooved/diamond pattern.

There is an exemption for certain vehicles that were manufactured that way but they would be so ancient they no longer require an MOT anyway.
All common sense really.


pekwah1 - 2/8/13 at 06:15 PM

the pedals in question were clutch and brake, apparently he didn't care about the accelerator.

As for the tyre, it is E marked, it's just on the inside face, not the outside face so shouldn't really have been a fail.


gremlin1234 - 2/8/13 at 06:24 PM

check that its not a directional tyre in the 'wrong' direction