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V5 and Donor - advice please
kingster996 - 18/3/14 at 11:57 AM

I have just acquired an MK Indy kit that has been sat unused for many years, along with a dismantled Sierra as a donor.

I have receipts for it all and the V5 for the donor, which is where I need some advice.

I realise that the 'normal' process when buying a second hand car is that the old keeper sends off the V5 with your (new keeper) details on it - and hands you the V5/2 supplement.

However, I actually have the entire V5 and so was just going to send it off as if I were the old keeper - but there's a catch.

The V5 has section 'C' marked as 'scrapped' with a date of 04 06 03 written in.

I have checked the DVLA website and the car is down as:

Date of Liability 01 04 2002
Vehicle Status Unlicensed

I am guessing that it hasn't been officially scrapped and probably not SORN'd?

So - what now?

Do I fill in the main V5 and alter the bit that says 'scrapped' (so that I can get an age related plate) - or do I just wait four weeks and then apply for a new V5C (as I have the green supplement)?

Also, when do I SORN it - now or when I get V5C - assuming I get one that is?


Mr Whippy - 18/3/14 at 12:53 PM

Thinking about it more, your not going to be able to use the donors reg number so the v5 has only limited use if only to just show where the parts came from

if you send the v5 away with scrapped on it I doubt you'll see it again, can you not score that bit out??

[Edited on 18/3/14 by Mr Whippy]


chrism - 18/3/14 at 01:04 PM

I would say your best bet is to do as you say, fill your details in on the new owners slip, wait the 4 weeks and then fill in the form to say you have not received the V5 in your name and post it to the DVLA with the new owners slip.

Not sure about SORN, I think you can get a form to fill in and then just send it in with the vehicles details and your new owner details so that a sorn gets registered to you.


ReMan - 18/3/14 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chrism
I would say your best bet is to do as you say, fill your details in on the new owners slip, wait the 4 weeks and then fill in the form to say you have not received the V5 in your name and post it to the DVLA with the new owners slip.

Not sure about SORN, I think you can get a form to fill in and then just send it in with the vehicles details and your new owner details so that a sorn gets registered to you.


As this
Assume youve jsut aquired ity, get the v5, sorn it, then use this for your age related plate whin its built


Slimy38 - 18/3/14 at 01:18 PM

Just one addition, don't send the SORN with the V5. While their paperwork advises that the new owner should declare SORN, and that the SORN declaration can go with the V5, I got my SORN returned to me because the car wasn't in my name. Even though both pieces of paper were in the same envelope.

Wait for the V5 to come back, then SORN it from the date of new keeper.


kingster996 - 18/3/14 at 01:29 PM

Thanks for the advice - as I had anticipated, I will wait the four weeks and then send off for a new V5C with my green slip (to save the £25 fee).

Will do as advised regarding SORN too.

Actually not really bothered if it ends up a Q or an age related (E plate) - I guess there's advantages/disadvantages to both?

From trawling I seem to understand it is...

Q = easier MOT test but perceived lower value by some
Age related = option for older personal plate, thus perceived higher value, but emissions may be an issue at MOT time

Correct?


ragindave - 18/3/14 at 05:02 PM

The old keeper of the vehicle could be liable for the period the vehicle has been unlicensed and also liable for failing to notify a change of keeper


Slimy38 - 18/3/14 at 05:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ragindave
The old keeper of the vehicle could be liable for the period the vehicle has been unlicensed and also liable for failing to notify a change of keeper


I vaguely remember if a car is off the road before SORN became compulsory then it doesn't have to be declared? Only when it changes owner will it need to be declared.

And they'll only find out about the latter if the car is checked up on or is involved in an incident. I doubt a pile of bits are going to be checked.

Kingster, what's the theory behind waiting four weeks? Just don't send the V5, they don't know it wasn't sent and if they didn't receive it then so be it. Fill in and send the green slip saying that it had been sold 4 weeks ago. If the V5 has the scrapped bit filled in then you can't send it anyway?

[Edited on 18/3/14 by Slimy38]


kingster996 - 18/3/14 at 06:08 PM

The DVLA site says to wait 4 weeks from sale (change of keeper) before applying for a new V5C - so just going to go along with that I reckon. Not like I need to tax it


kingster996 - 18/3/14 at 06:12 PM

I vaguely remember if a car is off the road before SORN became compulsory then it doesn't have to be declared? Only when it changes owner will it need to be declared.

I believe that applies to vehicles that were taken off road before 1997 - I recall checking this for one of my old bikes that has not been used since then and thus I have never had to SORN it.

This car was taxed in 03, so should have been SORN'd - but it was sold to a dealer (that bit of V5 has been filled in too) who dismantled it and "scrapped" it without actually scrapping it!

So, the original owner would have assumed the dealer would have sorted it I guess - and not sure if dealers have to SORN vehicles?


alfas - 21/3/14 at 08:53 PM

did you made a sales contract with the former owner, so you have a prove from the date of purchase?


kingster996 - 22/3/14 at 07:32 AM

Yes, I have a full receipt, dated correctly, with Reg No, VIN & Engine Number.


PorkChop - 3/4/14 at 09:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
Just one addition, don't send the SORN with the V5. While their paperwork advises that the new owner should declare SORN, and that the SORN declaration can go with the V5, I got my SORN returned to me because the car wasn't in my name. Even though both pieces of paper were in the same envelope.

Wait for the V5 to come back, then SORN it from the date of new keeper.


Then I reckon either whoever dealt with your form at the DVLA made a mistake or you made a mistake on the SORN form.

I did it last year with no dramas.


Slimy38 - 4/4/14 at 07:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by PorkChop


Then I reckon either whoever dealt with your form at the DVLA made a mistake or you made a mistake on the SORN form.

I did it last year with no dramas.


Absolutely, the DVLA messed up. I even double checked the forms when they came back just in case I had made a mistake, but no they were spot on.

Considering the typical DVLA interaction from people on here, I wasn't at all surprised...