So while getting started with fixing my dads 2007 Toyota Aventis which it failed it's MOT on a few items... I noticed the wheel moving oddly while taking off the wheel nuts so looked underneath and saw this WTF!!

Not sure what more it required to actually fail this part?!? The wheel is free to move all over the place, talk about dangerous. My dad totally hit the roof when I showed him and he's off to the garage to have a word with the owner . I've told him that with the general state of the car underneath it's scrap now and just not safe to use.



I beg to differ....



[Edited on 10/6/19 by Mr Whippy]

looks like it,s been at the bottom of the sea

Typical Japanese suspension , all of them seem to rust badly

we have a 2006 Honda FRV and that has rusted badly. Had a load of welding done on the underside for its MOT a year ago, cant say im impressed tbh!

Well this is our 3rd Toyota that's been turned into a scrap heap due to underbody rust. Corolla, Rav4 and now the Aventis... Will be the last Toyota we get

That's bad


"It wasn't that bad at the time of the test Sir"


Wonder if the car has spent some of its life by the sea or driving through road salt in the winter?

Fords have done that for years. We scraped the wife’s Ka 18months ago due to rot and it was on an 08 plate.

But it wasn’t as unsafe as that

A friend of mine had a 3 year old Fiat Strada that rusted through the roof back in the 80s
Aston Martins rust through on the inner wings near the front subframe mounts when only a few years old

[Edited on 10/6/19 by rusty nuts]

I have a 28 year old Toyota that isn't that badly rusted (not even remotely close), and it's spent 5 years of it's life hooning around a beach.

[Edited on 10/6/19 by coyoteboy]

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Originally posted by coyoteboy
I have a 28 year old Toyota that isn't that badly rusted (not even remotely close), and it's spent 5 years of it's life hooning around a beach.

[Edited on 10/6/19 by coyoteboy]

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Chinese steel?

I wonder if it's the UK's use of salt on the roads that's the problem? I'm sure I heard somewhere that Japan don't use it, even though it can be just as cold there.

One of the causes of cars rusting worse than others of the same age and model is where they are parked normally , parking on gravel, grass or mud is far worse than concrete or tarmac which dries out quicker reducing condensation

The tester can only record how he finds it on the day, I would presume it hadn't actually failed when he tested it and sometimes the big chunks of rust can hang on stubbornly enough to hide the true condition.

All those items should have been picked up during the last service, I would think about changing my servicing schedule or getting my servicing done elsewhere if it was serviced recently.

Reading all the MOT advisories, I suspect the MOT tester had had enough of looking for anything REALLY BAD
as all the minor defect to fix would out weigh what the car was worth

Ive not seen a failure, advisory sheet that bad in 40 years

steve

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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Well this is our 3rd Toyota that's been turned into a scrap heap due to underbody rust. Corolla, Rav4 and now the Aventis... Will be the last Toyota we get

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No these cars were primary my folks using them, they were parked over gravel and serviced by the same garage who has done their and my MOT's for about 10 years.

The garage this was tested is about 400 yards from my house and all I have done since the test it is jack up the wheel and remove the wheel nuts...

There's a well known problem with Jap cars in that due to them using chemicals in winter instead of salt they tend not to rust proof cars to the same standards used in Europe, certainly the cars we've had did not have any sign of factory underseal being applied. A few years ago I looked at MK3 MX5 for sale at the same garage, up top it looked stunning, however when I looked under it, it was totally covered in heavy rust.

I'm no longer going to use this garage despite it being so convenient.