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Are switch guards IVA friendly?

Slimy38 - 15/11/23 at 01:13 PM

I like the look of toggle switches for my electrics, in particular those with switch guard loops like these;

Do these allow a toggle switch to pass IVA, as long as the ball of doom can't hit the switch itself? I know you can get a rack of them from a Mini, would that be IVA ok?

loggyboy - 15/11/23 at 01:55 PM

That is there exact purpose.

adithorp - 15/11/23 at 05:48 PM

Yes but I'd use the switches with a rounde metal toggle so the tip passes the radius test anyway

Badger_McLetcher - 15/11/23 at 07:41 PM

I used something like this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163907504538?hash=item2629a6099a:g:dPAAAOSw9ltdpsnT&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwF69bx6vPqgooUa9w0Mf5y4u3zSGYM7VvsAZfj9eZR0MBj 4CBSqGonW%2FEMxC9XlJHKpJgT62r1TVlQQj9M%2FUBcf5fQhNACs61uYM%2BlEFSznyDcoA6XhcadKqmeR8dGOIvUPaB4sJMPsbJSySWzYIDPMfLWaSrz0BbydN4mATR6kl5lEIDZGBZq%2FN9Drt qAjHbCWfvbMRyMzkjTmYkzWJVz07PlR8DdhH0Dxb%2BZpKdp11tnaze3dvpM8NP%2FD780mhew%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4K49cf6Yg

With a nut on either side of the dash panel, and the nut rounded off by a domed nut cover with a 6mm hole drilled in it. It passed fine and was a lot cheaper than the purpose built switch guards

Oh, I also blackened them in old oil.

Slimy38 - 15/11/23 at 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Badger_McLetcher
I used something like this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163907504538?hash=item2629a6099a:g:dPAAAOSw9ltdpsnT&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwF69bx6vPqgooUa9w0Mf5y4u3zSGYM7VvsAZfj9eZR0MBj 4CBSqGonW%2FEMxC9XlJHKpJgT62r1TVlQQj9M%2FUBcf5fQhNACs61uYM%2BlEFSznyDcoA6XhcadKqmeR8dGOIvUPaB4sJMPsbJSySWzYIDPMfLWaSrz0BbydN4mATR6kl5lEIDZGBZq%2FN9Drt qAjHbCWfvbMRyMzkjTmYkzWJVz07PlR8DdhH0Dxb%2BZpKdp11tnaze3dvpM8NP%2FD780mhew%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4K49cf6Yg

With a nut on either side of the dash panel, and the nut rounded off by a domed nut cover with a 6mm hole drilled in it. It passed fine and was a lot cheaper than the purpose built switch guards

Oh, I also blackened them in old oil.

Oddly enough these had come to my attention too, but I couldn't figure out the fixing mechanism. A drilled nut cover sounds perfect, thanks!

sdh2903 - 16/11/23 at 08:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I like the look of toggle switches for my electrics, in particular those with switch guard loops like these;

Do these allow a toggle switch to pass IVA, as long as the ball of doom can't hit the switch itself? I know you can get a rack of them from a Mini, would that be IVA ok?

Despite the general consensus on these being IVA proof. I received a fail for them on my last iva. I'll need to dig out the reason but something to do with no certification of load strength. I'd already failed on a different point so didn't fight it too hard but it was something I'd never heard of before. I ended up using a 3d printed shroud which was a nonsense really.

Badger_McLetcher - 16/11/23 at 09:06 AM

It's worth noting that you've got to use an M6 or higher U-bolt otherwise it doesn't meet the minimum 2.5mm radius requirement.

There's so much in the IVA which seems to vary from tester to tester, I was lucky in that I had the same guy every time!

sdh2903 - 16/11/23 at 09:38 AM

Fail

I imagine this is one of those random fails that no one will ever see again.

Slimy38 - 16/11/23 at 09:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903

Fail

I imagine this is one of those random fails that no one will ever see again.

Hmm, that's an interesting one. I think the fibreglass body itself might break at 40kgf, so simply mounting the switches on that would satisfy the requirement. Alternatively I could go for the switches mounted on a plate, which is mounted in turn on to some fixings that would deform at a certain point?

Edit: I've just seen the reply from sdh2903, having load strength certification seems at odds with it's ability to retract or break cleanly. I guess it's back to reading the IVA manual again.

[Edited on 16-11-23 by Slimy38]

loggyboy - 16/11/23 at 12:04 PM

Just add them after IVA, use small push buttons to pass.

Slimy38 - 16/11/23 at 02:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Just add them after IVA, use small push buttons to pass.

I'm starting to think my post-IVA work is more than my pre-IVA work!

JAG - 16/11/23 at 02:12 PM

I did my SVA test in 2005.

At that time I had the original Sierra steering wheel on the car - it was quite large

Switches positioned behind the steering wheel, and in an exclusion zone around the steering wheel, were exempt.

I don't know if it's still the same but....

Slimy38 - 16/11/23 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JAG
I did my SVA test in 2005.

At that time I had the original Sierra steering wheel on the car - it was quite large

Switches positioned behind the steering wheel, and in an exclusion zone around the steering wheel, were exempt.

I don't know if it's still the same but....

Now that's an interesting thought... I wasn't planning on putting the speedo or rev counter behind the wheel as I like the 'centre dash' look. But that does leave a bit of prime real estate behind the wheel...