Must be scary quick though
[Edited on 26/4/24 by Mr Whippy]
I saw this on my Ebay travels;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305479721189
And I was really admiring the work that has gone into it, some 'unusual' design choices but overall something a bit tidy. Then I noticed
it's on an L reg, which seemed possible but unlikely? So I did an MOT check and it came back as a 1972 VW Beetle...
[Edited on 24/4/24 by Slimy38]
Very sketchy. It's also not being MOT tested, and it's insured as a beetle.
Another:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204749670818
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Right up front.. The car is not currently strictly road legal.
...
Since then I've driven it around on trade plates whenever I've been out in it, Trade Plates cost £165 for 12 months.
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Originally posted by Rod Ends
Another:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204749670818
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Right up front.. The car is not currently strictly road legal.
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Since then I've driven it around on trade plates whenever I've been out in it, Trade Plates cost £165 for 12 months.
I remember the Avante kit car in the 80's and it was based on a VW beetle, so please before you slag people off and bring attention to the car as
being illegal just do a quick google search to check your facts. As it's based on a VW chassis not a cut down chassis it is perfectly legal to
use historic plates and all that means. insuring it as a VW beetle is also fine, The only thing I would suggest is updating the registration document
to say "VW beetle kit car" or something similar.
David
I'm getting deja vu, cos we discussed the beetle chassis cars recently, but even if there's a whole beetle frame in there, there's no way it could be called an unmodified chassis.
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Originally posted by JoelP
I'm getting deja vu, cos we discussed the beetle chassis cars recently, but even if there's a whole beetle frame in there, there's no way it could be called an unmodified chassis.
To be fair the car looks very nice and well built
The only thing I can see is the floor pan that’s VW beetle is that enough to make it road legal
Big conclusion to jumpt to..
As mentioned the beetle chassis is popular for the exact reason is it rarely needs IVA. They are a completely self contained chassis that can be run
with the body removed. They can be registered on the points system to not only not require an IVA, but not require a reg change. Whilst they still
need to be run thru the DLVA system, we all know how bad they DVLA are for getting things right, so its safe to assume they never bothered changing
what it was named as on the V5.
You only need 8 points from the below, so with a beetle chassis you can re-engine and still get 11 points without even trying.
Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified (direct from manufacturer) 5
Suspension (front and back) - original 2
Axles (both) - original 2
Transmission - original 2
Steering assembly - original 2
Engine - original 1
Nice, I have no issues with it as the chassis looks stock with a Red design wishbone suspension subframe kit mounted to the stock frame head. It even
has the stock rear trailing arms, given the camber at the back. A clever and interesting car
Must be scary quick though
[Edited on 26/4/24 by Mr Whippy]
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Originally posted by loggyboy
You only need 8 points from the below, so with a beetle chassis you can re-engine and still get 11 points without even trying.
Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified (direct from manufacturer) 5
Suspension (front and back) - original 2
Axles (both) - original 2
Transmission - original 2
Steering assembly - original 2
Engine - original 1
True, however...
The kit is an old one from the 1980's, it could very well have been done using the entire original floorplan and drive train of the VW Bug as it
was first designed and put on the road for years if not decades in that form. Indeed that kit car was way before the SVA or IVA had even been dreamed
up and the Subaru engine certainly was not available! I suspect it was a barn find with a 1200 engine.
Then later the engine/gearbox & suspension is upgraded and just because you later change out the engine on a kit car doesn't mean you then
have to go through the whole IVA process. I swapped out the Falcons 2lr engine with a 2.8 v6 and the DLVA didn't even bat an eyelid.
In this case as the chassis is original and not shortened I'd be happy with it. My beach buggy didn't have the original engine or gearbox
either, after going though the whole correct registration process, it was still called a Beetle. It's a nice car, well built and sympathetically
finished in keeping with the original kit car style, I'd love one 
Decent price too for such a fast looker. 
It would be much easier for the seller to prove it's a historic conversion if he had updated the v5 when it was originally converted.
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Originally posted by JoelP
It would be much easier for the seller to prove it's a historic conversion if he had updated the v5 when it was originally converted.
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Originally posted by Mr Whippy It's a nice car, well built and sympathetically finished in keeping with the original kit car style, I'd love one