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Buying an incorrectly reg'd car.
owelly - 27/5/06 at 11:15 AM

I know that this subject has been covered before but..........
I have seen several cars for sale (usually on Tebay) that are registered as the original donor car.
As I see it, DVLA had an amnesty a few years ago where you could get the V5 amended but a lot of folks didn't bother.
I also understand there are procedures in place whereby if you can supply an old MOT certificate to prove that the car has been previously used as whatever it is now.
What I want to know is, if I was to buy a kit that was still V5'd as an Escort but I had no old MOT's what would be the next step? The past few cars I have been watching have been advertised as 'Road Tax Free' Would this be the case?
On each occasion i have asked the seller the questions but they have told me that the car is wht it says it is and the V5 is OK and they are VED free.
What happens when it goes for a new 'puterised MOT and the VRM comes up as an Escort?
Just curious as I have no more room for anymore cars....


DIY Si - 27/5/06 at 11:29 AM

Free road tax is purely age related for these type of vehicles, so they must be registered as the donor car. From what I understand, these type of vehicles should require the sva test. But you may get away without it. Then again, it's a good way of finding out just how well built the car is, as the mot test can be passed by roughly any old banger.


donut - 27/5/06 at 11:32 AM

As far as i know ( i have read this in a few Kit Car mags) you DO NOT get free road licence with kit cars even if the donor was pre 73 built. Only cars built before 73 come under the 'Historic vehicle' banner.


DIY Si - 27/5/06 at 11:33 AM

That's what I meant, but better put. This must mean it's still down as an old escort/cortina etc.


owelly - 27/5/06 at 01:14 PM

Just a hypothetical scenario.....
Lets imagine that I bought a 'Random Kit' from Ebay. It stated in the listing that it was correctly reg'd and had a few MOT's.
I spend several weeks rebuilding the car and possibly several hundreds of pounds restoring the car. I then trundle up to the MOT emporium and the tester tells me he cannot test the vehicle as the vehicle I have taken is not a 'Ford Escgliaevenger'.
I then contact DVLA who insist I have a SVA. The 'Random Kit' has no chance of getting through the SVA.
What could be done?
Don't worry about the legal aspect of any replies as this has not happened to me. I'm still curious!


Just - 27/5/06 at 03:08 PM

My understanding is that you would need to get the car up to SVA standard and it would have to pass. If the V5 states incorrectly that the car is still an Escort et al then insurance would be invalid too I would expect.


DIY Si - 27/5/06 at 03:32 PM

If said' Random Kit' had no chance of passing the sva, would you really want to be driving it round at full beans?


owelly - 27/5/06 at 03:44 PM

Yes I would!
Just because my car had an incorrectly radiused spiffle grommet or the winkercators are 15mm too low, doesn't mean it's not safe. If you see what I mean..?


DIY Si - 27/5/06 at 03:47 PM

Mis-read the comments. The way i see it that doesn't constitute

quote:

no chance of getting through the SVA

. I would assume that a car that has no chance of passing would have something fundamentaly wrong with it. Ie bad chassis, wonky brakes etc. rather than an admittidly minor point such as radii etc.


owelly - 27/5/06 at 03:56 PM

As stated, this is all hypothetical. The cars I already have have no hope of passing the SVA due to the silly 'cosmetic' things. They would probably fail on more important things but as they are already reg'd, it's not a problem. And as I have several of the same car that are all soon to be the same colour................I only need one MOT/TAX/Insurance if I was to be a naughty chimp. IYSWIM?


DIY Si - 27/5/06 at 04:23 PM

That would be very naughty of you. But would save a small fortune.


Hellfire - 27/5/06 at 05:55 PM

If the registration document is correct for the type of vehicle you have, then no problem. If the registration document however is incorrect, it means that you are driving an illegal vehicle and your insurance will also be invalid.


owelly - 27/5/06 at 06:00 PM

I don't intend driving a car with the wrong doc's but there will be plenty somewhere judging by the amount of cars passing through the 'Bay with the donors ID. Lets just hope none of them crash into us!!
I phoned DVLA (on another matter) and asked them about the situation with selling/buying cars with the wrong details and they said that you would have to take the car and all the relevent papers along to a prebooked appointment with them for them to have a look. Not much use unless you have bought the car and than it would be too late!


tks - 29/5/06 at 06:29 PM

that will depend on the seller...

you have eyes and can check it yours not?

just ask them what they do check? right?

and then check it yours? if they use the computer then you make copies of the document os write down numbers and then you ask them for details..

should be that easy..not?

Tks