My front braided hoses are rather long, and up till now they've been happy being zip-tied to the bottom wishbone.

Am I right in saying this will not do for SVA, and they need to be clear of everything??

I thought your car was passed and on the road?

That was my other car .......

Ah, well I've missed something then.

What happened?

I would *think* that long is better than short (for full turning) and that only if they are in danger of getting caught would it become an SVA issue.

I can't see why a wrap for neatness (as long as it can turn) would even raise an eyebrow.

Of course, if it is a fail, he will let you take the wrap off during the test (he let me put loads on during my SVA - in fact he did them himself whilst the car was on the ramp!)

Caveat - may be worth speaking to your tester!

My thoughts are that any movement could wear the wall of the pipes particulary with zip ties

Jasper

I was told that the pipes are not allowed to touch any part of the car while turning lock to lock. Some people have put Jubilee clips inside the gater on the steering rack to reduce the turning circle which also means less chance of the pipe touching anything.

Also if they are braded make sure they are wrapped in that spiro wrap stuff.

Why do I need to wrap braided hoses in spiro wrap????

Maybe if I put a small piece of split rubber tube around it at the point that's it's zip tied??

jasper,use spiral wrap,it will stop the hose rubbing and looks like you did a neat job

What's the point of having the stainless braiding in the first place then? Plastic "spiro-rap" is less resistant to abrasion than stainless braiding. No offence but as for looking like a neat job, I would agree with "paranoid cover everything job just to please Mr SVA" which is the stage I'm getting to. BUT before anyone bites my head off, you certainly do become an expert at Jumping Through Hoops to register a Locost... So will have to go and buy some Spiro wrap to cover up!

Cheers

The point of ss braided hose isn't for abrasion resistance, the point of these hoses is to improve pedal feel because they don't swell like standard rubber ones

The problem isn't the hose wearing away - it's the fact that the braiding is highly abrasive and wears everything else away! It's like a file, rubbing away whatever it's touching.

DJ

I can see how it would act as an abrasive surface, but I thought we'd agreed that the hose shouldn't touch anything?

Cheers

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[Edited on 19/11/03 by SeaBass]

Jasper,
I was planning to use rubber lined P clips, one around the wishbone and one around the hose and simply bolt them together.

Think I got the idea from a louts 340R, they definately fasten the brake lines to the upper wishbone, just can't remember how

All the best Dan.

Mate of mine passed with a self tapper holding a rubber lined p-clip onto the front cycle wing support. looks neat too.

no spiro wrap and it passed with braided hoses too.

ColMaccoll

Have you got any pictures of how you fastened your brake lines?

Thanks

I dont have any piccys but it is really simple, the hose exits the side panel of the car, it then goes to the rear cycle arch stay just above the caliper, a hwole is drilled in the stay (its round tube) and a p clip and self tapper is screwed in.

this ensures that it does not chaff on anything and means that thre is no pulling effect on the calliper end of things. The end is screwed directly into the calliper too.

I think there is a difference here between touching and fixing.

zip ties or whatever are fixings. the hose stays put. if its waving around and contacts wheel or bones intermittently, thats touching.

I have used ties on my front pipes and I cant see the issue. I could change to P clips, but im tending to think sod it, wait and see what sva actually says.

Is a P clip 'touching' or a fixing, and if so, how does a zip tie differ in mechanics....?

I may put a zip tie around the 'bone' then put a zip tie thro that and tie the pipe so that its only in contact with the lower tie and the upper tie - not actually the 'bone itself. Then we will see what Mr sva man things of the pedantics of that.

atb

steve