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Edit: Final release versions now available
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For kit builders, Basic IVA (bIVA) is the replacement for SVA, which is covered by the first section. Full IVA is more like the replacement for ESVA
and is covered by the rest of the manual.
Discuss...
[The discussion below mostly relates to the initial draft versions]
[Edited on 31/3/09 by matt_claydon]
At a glance it seems okay. Appears reverse is required and a horn.
when will this take over from sva?
Item 17... must be fitted with a reverse gear. Gulp.
Kipper.
quote:April 2009 i think
Originally posted by Stuart_B
when will this take over from sva?
The biggest change will be the cost!!!!
hmm
not bad for most of you, a quick flick through gives me a few problems though... better get my arse in gear and get this car SVA'd before march
next year...
It might stymie the fashion for BECs a bit. The bang for your buck wont be as good if you're having to pay for the reverse box type thing. (CEC
builder here so I don't know what they're called.) Plus the extra weight penalty.
Might as well have a pinto.
Will it be a case of reverse needed for IVA but not required for MOT? If so, I can imagine a few "falling off" after registration.
I'm not up on the tech aspects but wouldn't that mean a new propshaft? Surely something extra's got to get between the rear diff and the bike engine?
Leccy reverse has got to be the cheapest, and least power sapping, if not the most reliable...
Perfect for the test then
There's a few new 'features' in this manual:
* Noise - down from 101dB to 99dB.
* Plastic fuel tanks have to be certified as fit for purpose.
* Horn
* Reverse (as discussed above)
* Reversing light defined (couldn't find out if it was now a required light)
* Two external mirrors will have to be fitted, plus the central internal one. (it used to be just the offside external + internal)
* Controls and warning lamps to be labelled (examples given).
* Space for rear number plate to be measured to make sure there's room, and that it can be seen from various angles.
* Wheel guards defined properly (affects front cycle wings mostly).
* VIN numbers defined (17 characters for us, but mass produced cars can have less).
I'm sure there's a few more gotchas in there.
[Edited on 22/6/08 by David Jenkins]
So it's wang a zetec starter motor on to a toothed wheel on the propshaft from now on then?
Falls off on the way back from SVA?
03A 7. Fuel Tanks must be positioned so as not to be vulnerable to damage from
protruding parts or sharp edges in the event of a front or rear impact (page 39). Could be a problem depending on the tester?
05 4. The steering angle must not be limited by any part of the steering transmission
system unless it has been specifically designed for this purpose (page 42). Presumably this means people fitting jubilee clips on the steering rack to
limit lock, or putting springs on to get some self centring...
13A 4. If fitted to the Vehicle, an Immobiliser must be accompanied by evidence of
compliance (page 76). No noddy chinese alarms off eBay then?
I like the manual better than the SVA one, i'm finding it a lot easier to navigate. Hopefully i'll be finished before IVA but i'm
tempted to build to the IVA manual anyway, it's easier to read
"it must not be possible to manually adjust braking rates between axles" Page 55
does this mean that absolutely no brake biasing systems at all?
Could be difficult for some....
[Edited on 23/6/08 by AndyGT]
some evidence of a crumple zone too!!!!
Page 79
quote:
Originally posted by AndyGT
some evidence of a crumple zone too!!!!
Page 79
quote:
Originally posted by AndyGT
"it must not be possible to manually adjust braking rates between axles" Page 55
does this mean that absolutely no brake biasing systems at all?
Could be difficult for some....
[Edited on 23/6/08 by AndyGT]
I wondered about the fuel tank location. MR2's have it in the 'transmission tunnel', is that considered integral to the passenger
compartment as it runs right down the middle of it?
It's the bit about the tank being mounted where it's reasonably safe from damage in an impact that worries me. On a seven the tank is
protected from a shunt by the rear panel only
i see problems in the emissions...
its stated that if it cant pass a BET test it needs to do a stricter CAT1 test..
i say stricter because it states 1st sept 02 onwards)
well it means that engine proof will become more important.. then not???
Idle (450 to 1500rpm)
CO < = 0.5%
(1 st sept 02 onwards
CO < = 0.3%)
Fast Idle (2500 to 3000rpm)
CO <= 0.3%
(1 st sept 02 onwards
CO <= 0.3%
HC <= 200ppm (parts per million)
Labda > 0.97 and < 1.03
Effective date:
“Effective Date” The “effective date” used to
determine the criteria applicable is -
the date of manufacture of the vehicle, except
for an “Amateur Built” vehicle, a “Vehicle manufactured
using parts of a registered vehicle” or a “Rebuilt vehicle” it
shall be 1 January immediately preceding the date
of manufacture of the vehicle’s engine if this is earlier.
If the “effective date” cannot be determined,
it must be assumed to be on or after 1 August 1979.
has this changed...??
Tks
quote:
Originally posted by iank
Is there anywhere the general public can comment/get clarification?
You can also email your comments/observations toIVA consultation
I and a few others have asked about an exemption for bike engined cars for the reverse gear issue - If enough people raise the issue it might carry
some weight.
Cheers
Chris
Thanks for that.
I'll gather my thoughts and send them off as one email. As my concerns are mainly about clarification and heading off inconsistent tester
interpretations at kickoff hopefully I'll get a response - if I do I'll post it here.
However I suspect the reverse gear has been specifically introduced because of the BEC's so chances of getting it changed are probably slim.
Though no harm asking I guess.
ooh er. I've just signed up after months of day dreaming about building my own car (although I've been on the haynes and mig welding forums
for a while). Does anyone reckon I'd be able to complete a roadster before march 09 lol?
All jokes asside though, just wanted to say a quick hi and intro myself to the forums. I'll be watching this section and the consultation to see
how this will affect my build
Paul w
I've run the PDF through a pdf to html converter and zipped the output. It's a bit more portable, and most importantly I can now read it on
my PDA whilst it coninues to rain here in the new forrest! might be useful to others....
I can't vouch for the quality ofthe conversion, but first glances it looks ok. Unzip the file, then run the IVA.html file..
oh, if you want, you can just use the IVAs.html file, which is the main text, without the links to original page numbers and the graphics (few as they are). I used it with my eBook reader quite nicely.
sorry folks. the html conversion wasn't that great. many (most?) of the sentences are broken up and out of order. I'll have another look when I am in front of a real computer and not remote desktopping from my phone!
quote:
Originally posted by RichieW
It might stymie the fashion for BECs a bit. The bang for your buck wont be as good if you're having to pay for the reverse box type thing. (CEC builder here so I don't know what they're called.)
on a mot course last week a friend of mine spoke to a sva tester about my build (haynes).he suggested it would not pass the new test from april due to rule inf 26 ,i can not find this on dvla website ,why would he say my and other locost type builds will not pass,if this is how he understands the new rules should i take my car elsewhere or am i building an ornament he said bring before april 1st which i can not do ,ideas anyone, phil
quote:
Originally posted by phil clegg
on a mot course last week a friend of mine spoke to a sva tester about my build (haynes).he suggested it would not pass the new test from april due to rule inf 26 ,i can not find this on dvla website ,why would he say my and other locost type builds will not pass,if this is how he understands the new rules should i take my car elsewhere or am i building an ornament he said bring before april 1st which i can not do ,ideas anyone, phil
quote:
Originally posted by phil clegg
on a mot course last week a friend of mine spoke to a sva tester about my build (haynes).he suggested it would not pass the new test from april due to rule inf 26 ,i can not find this on dvla website ,why would he say my and other locost type builds will not pass,if this is how he understands the new rules should i take my car elsewhere or am i building an ornament he said bring before april 1st which i can not do ,ideas anyone, phil
Latest versions here:
IVA v3.0 manual
Are they keeping the SVA for goods vehicles?
can you build a special goods vehicle...eg a special post van 7 and then modify it a bit after? :-)
(yes i am being tongue in cheek)
Any confirmation on the price yet? £500 seems an awfully big hike that will hit a lot of you hard. Are they trying to stop people building kit cars?
Is there some reason they may - high fatality rate, pressure from the EU etc? I can't see it tbh.
quote:
Originally posted by andys101
If the UK implemented the new EC Directive there would be no such thing as kit cars as the directive doesnt allow them.
However each member state can self legislate, which is what the uk have done.
quote:
Originally posted by andys101
Errrrr good guess...... Yes.
Don't be frightened I'm here to help.
Andy.
Just noticed we are up to version 3 from 28/04 published May
Link
Adrian
[Edited on 12-5-09 by AdrianH]
Note 5: Bias bars and other mechanical adjusting devices fitted to twin
master cylinders must have no means of adjustment. However they will
be deemed acceptable if the all nuts etc are fully welded to their relative
threads and all the threads originally intended to provide adjustment are
welded along their length i.e. permanently rendering them un-adjustable.
Just for information another version June 09 is on the web page.
Not sure what differences there are between this and the May version
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/vehicledealershipsandimporters/isocertificationandtypeapproval/individualvehicleapprovalinspectionmanuals.h
tm
Adrian
[Edited on 4-7-09 by AdrianH]
A Sierra master cylinder has three outlets. One from the chamber nearest the brake pedal and two from the front chamber. Would it be OK to split the
brakes by piping one of the front outlets to a front brake the other to a rear brake and then splitting the single outlet front and back?
It looks like that the requirement for diagonal split braking is going to make it impossible for people to use twin master cylinders and a bias bar.
I can't see how that would work.
From the IVA manual, Brakes section 09A
4.
The vehicle must be fitted with a split (dual) circuit brake system with each part of the system operating on at least two wheels (one on each side),
capable of operating in the event of a failure of the service brake or its power assistance.
Geoff
quote:
From the IVA manual, Brakes section 09A
4.
The vehicle must be fitted with a split (dual) circuit brake system with each part of the system operating on at least two wheels (one on each side), capable of operating in the event of a failure of the service brake or its power assistance.
Geoff
Thanks for the reply Minitici.
Geoff
quote:
Originally posted by minitici
quote:
From the IVA manual, Brakes section 09A
4.
The vehicle must be fitted with a split (dual) circuit brake system with each part of the system operating on at least two wheels (one on each side), capable of operating in the event of a failure of the service brake or its power assistance.
Geoff
This is NOT necessarily a diagonally split requirement!
A front/rear split meets the above requirement of "each part of the system operating on at least two wheels (one on each side)"
The IT numpties have been at it again they've moved the stuff & left broken links. No idea how long it will stay
HERE before they decide to break it again.
Alan...
quote:
Originally posted by FEZ1025
The IT numpties have been at it again they've moved the stuff & left broken links. No idea how long it will stay HERE before they decide to break it again.
Alan, see sticky under this one in the 'IVA/SVA' section .....
Fozzie
Alan...
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Alan, see sticky under this one in the 'IVA/SVA' section .....
Fozzie
You will see 3 stickies in this section, denoted by an arrow to the right of the thread title....
Wow that was difficult to find!!
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_Theme_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual__Version_4.pdf
I am sorry, I must be blind,
Can some one point me to the direction of the IVA manual and the emissions standards
Thanks...
quote:
Originally posted by woodsy144
I am sorry, I must be blind,
Can some one point me to the direction of the IVA manual and the emissions standards
Thanks...
New version available with new relaxed rules on brake bias adjusters.
New Manual v4.510
Version 5.01 (26/7/2010) is now available:
http://online.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual__Version_501_0710.pdf
Version 5.02
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual_Version_1010.pdf
Another update:
Version 6.01 (09/05/11)
https://online.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual_Version_0511.pdf
Another new version:
Ver 6.02 Dated 31/7/11
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual_Version_0811.pdf
Latest version:
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual_Version_1111.pdf
I've been looking at the one last updated in January. Have there been any differences since?
quote:
Originally posted by Davegtst
I've been looking at the one last updated in January. Have there been any differences since?
Another new version released 29/4/12
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual.pdf
Version 7.02 released (21/05/2012) No major changes, just alterations to the forword regarding 'methods of inspection'.
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual_1.pdf
[Edited on 19/7/12 by loggyboy]
Version 8.02
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-vehicle-approval-manuals
Cor, a little bit of night time reading there!
Version 9.0 now avialable:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf
Lots of revisions - will review and sumarise!
i've not been keeping up with the IVA manual lately, is there anything really important i should be aware of before paying to have my car wired up?
Updated link to latest manual as one above is dead
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/203591/M1_IVA_inspection_manual.pdf
Still version 9.0
version 10: Nov 2016
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/556944/m1-iva-inspection-manual.pdf
[Edited on 28/11/16 by gremlin1234]
Version 12.00 1 July 2018
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/738819/individual-vehicle-approval-inspection-manual-p
assenger-vehicles.pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1154290/individual-vehicle-approval-inspection-ma
nual-passenger-vehicles-to-21-may-2023.pdf
[Edited on 6/5/23 by Prof_Cook]