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Escort rear axle oil seal/bearing?
David Jenkins - 9/10/12 at 05:10 PM

Found out today that my Escort rear axle ("English axle) is leaking oil at the one of the bearings, which is a pain in the bum... The bearing itself is fine, it's just the seal.

I now need to look around for a replacement, together with the retaining collar - can anyone recommend a good supplier?

Also - anything I should look out for? In my first tentative searches it looks like some have an o-ring on the outside, and others don't... confusing...


[Edited on 9/10/12 by David Jenkins]

bigfoot4616 - 9/10/12 at 05:37 PM

i replaced one earlier this year and its now leaking again which seems to be a common problem with a lot of the ones available now.
i did get 2 last time but i'm not sure if i want to fit the other one in case the seal fails again a few months later.

all the ones i've had have had the o-ring's although the originals ones i replaced 3 years ago didn't.

zekill - 9/10/12 at 07:20 PM

Mine are for Burton, 'O'ring type and I have a leak on a side
I have removed the ring and use silicone, it's the same.

David Jenkins - 9/10/12 at 07:36 PM

The o-ring was one reason for asking - I'd seen an advert rubbishing the o-ring types, but I wasn't sure whether that was due to advertising puff, or based on real life. Unfortunately he hadn't got any of his 'good ones' in stock...

Oh - while looking in this area - I notice that my rear brake cylinder is weeping a bit... better change that while I'm in there...


[Edited on 9/10/12 by David Jenkins]

dray13dad - 9/10/12 at 08:09 PM

one of mine leaked for about six months after doing both has now stopped so not going touch it now! Oh and still has plnty of oil in it.

02GF74 - 9/10/12 at 08:36 PM

i fitted the ones with o-rings - bought off ebay and are fine - it can be quite difficult to get the bearing in without snagging the o-ring - one side wnet in almost first time, other side was a nightmare - been a while but i have a feeling i had to replace the o-ring as it was damaged but whatever i did, it has no leaks. so take your time when fitting and make sure the o-ring is going in all the way round.

procomp - 9/10/12 at 08:46 PM

Hi.
The ones with the o.ring are cheap imports. the o.ring does not stop the oil flowing straight through the bearing. you can try making a thin gasket to sit on the inside face as per the original design.

David Jenkins - 9/10/12 at 09:16 PM

Thanks for that - looks like I should look for a "no o-ring" one if possible.

I didn't know about the gasket behind the bearing; it isn't mentioned in my Haynes Book of Lies!

My other challenge is to identify the brake cylinder, as according to Haynes there were 2 types. It doesn't help that I don't know which model the axle came from, although it appears to have come from a 1300 Escort (judging from the ratio), and is a Timkin type English axle.

MK9R - 10/10/12 at 07:12 AM

I've changed these a few times and they quite often leak. I have tried lots of different ones but the last one i bought hasnt leaked, got it from here:-

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/motorsport-toolsuk/&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2754

We also smear a lot of sikaflex sealant on all the mating surfaces, this seems to help, but not of the oil pees through the bearing itself.

zekill - 10/10/12 at 09:19 AM

FAG do it: 713 6782 30
SKF do it: VKBA 960

but very difficult to found.
If anyone know where buy, please tell here.

An other solution is to replace by a good quality join in the cheap bearing.

David Jenkins - 10/10/12 at 01:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zekill
FAG do it: 713 6782 30
SKF do it: VKBA 960

but very difficult to found.
If anyone know where buy, please tell here.

An other solution is to replace by a good quality join in the cheap bearing.


That FAG reference is very useful! I found the SKF one in a couple of French web pages, but they didn't seem to cater for people outside France (postage etc.). However, a number of UK sellers have the FAG one for a similar price, and at £40 + shipping they're not much more expensive than the general-purpose ones sold on ebay. I'd rather pay £10 more for a top-notch brand anyway, as I don't want to be changing bearings all the time...

Here's the FAG link (bottom of page)

FAG Bearing supplier (UK)

I later found a SKF seller ( Note: look out for the promo code shown at the top of the page when ordering - 35% off!)

SKF bearing supplier (UK)

I've ordered the SKF one - we'll see how good it is shortly!

Note:

The French seller was:

SKF supplier (Fr)


[Edited on 10/10/12 by David Jenkins]

zekill - 10/10/12 at 03:23 PM

this French supplier is a very bad adress.
I 've try to order the SKF unit a coupe of weeks but they can't have it.

please tell here when you receive bearings

David Jenkins - 10/10/12 at 07:06 PM

I'll let you know how I get on...

Thanks to everyone for your posts...

David Jenkins - 11/10/12 at 07:28 AM

Rats...

Got a message this morning to say that they're out of stock...

Back to the search...

x_flow57 - 11/10/12 at 02:08 PM

Have you tried Hayleys in BSE?

Nick

David Jenkins - 11/10/12 at 02:13 PM

I've just ordered one from Unipart in Ipswich - mostly so that I can get on with the job. They're very good to deal with, as they'll let me check it over before I pay my money (I'll take my digital vernier tomorrow to check the dimensions!).

I don't know how Unipart make their money... he didn't have one in stock (which was no surprise) but he's getting one from their Oxford warehouse - by the end of the day! They don't charge for shipping this stuff round the country either. I've had gaskets that have come from Cambridge & Colchester, all within the day, at no extra charge.

I'll let everyone know how this bearing works out...