daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 04:51 PM |
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sva fail! carlisle
just been for sva today in carlisle.the examiner was very good and helpful, very strict but fair.
a few fail points are going to take some sorting out i think!
1; the veypor vr2 dash was not accepted as at the push of a button the speedo can be omitted from screen. it MUST be visible at all times. might go
for a set of R1 clocks instead.
2; the klictronic gear linkage cable was not fixed at 300mm spacings and securing to colum would result in not being able to put on full lock as wires
would wrap around the colum.
3;a few edging strips needed
4;due to the engine running lean and fan playing up it over-heated right at end of test and just before he testsd emmisions! (bugger)
all in all not terrible as am sure we can make some sort of bracket to mount kliktronic and fit a set of R1 clocks. emmisions were ok when we tested
them so can only hope everything will be ok with them. all in all i enjoyed the day!
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Danozeman
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 04:54 PM |
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Thats not a bad fail mate. easyish fixes. The dash is a sod though.
Dan
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maximill666
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:06 PM |
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Not a bad fail at all daniel, shame about not being able to test the emmissions, thats the biggest PITA with a carbed motor, or at least it was with
mine 
Can you mount the kliktronic buttons on the dash just for sva?
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UncleFista
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:08 PM |
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Couldn't you just disable the button on the veypor ?
[Edited on 2/4/09 by UncleFista]
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daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:16 PM |
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when the tester first turned the ignition,the speedo was not on the screen. instant fail after less than 5 seconds! there may be a way i can disable
both buttons so that the screen i want just appears and cant be switched off. it will be something to look in to.
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TimC
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:17 PM |
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Hmm - lateral thinking required I reckon - Aluminium bracket over VR2 buttons - wrapping around sides. using the original mounting holes and painted
black - would look permanent enough. You can set the default screen to whichever you like.
Put the gear change on a momentary toggle switch in the exclusion area? You could even tape the SPA button up under the dash and use the hole?
On the fan, you or MNR did fit the longer wires that I provided right? :s It did work - I promise!
By the way - where's the pics?
[Edited on 2/4/09 by TimC]
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lsdweb
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:18 PM |
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Daniel
Can you put a cover over the dash so that the buttons aren't accessible?
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StevieB
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:18 PM |
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It's a bugger to fail, but it seems that plenty people do first time round (including me on Monday this week).
What I have found though is that it's more of a pleasure to work on the car to fix the fail list than it was to get everything ready in the
first place - having a defined list to re-test keeps life nice and simple!
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daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:25 PM |
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pics will be comng when its complete tim. thanks to everyone for advice! tim; do you know if the veypor will display the screen i set it to as soon
as ignition is turned? when we turned ignition the veypor had to be turned on!
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:30 PM |
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My veypor vr2 passed without any problems!!!!!!!
was set to display speed when switched on.
But buttons not hidden.
speek to the examiner and check that its ok if you disable the buttons .
Paul
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul (Notts)
My veypor vr2 passed without any problems!!!!!!!
was set to display speed when switched on.
But buttons not hidden.
speek to the examiner and check that its ok if you disable the buttons .
Paul
That was the approach our man had today, as long as it showed mph on start up he seemed to be happy (mines a vapor not veypor).
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daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:54 PM |
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my examiner would not accept as he said you could push the button once moving and be driving with no speedo. he said it MUST be visible at all times.
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marc n
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 05:58 PM |
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what a bugger 
the dash thing is a new clarification that everyone should be aware of, irrelavent of what dash you have you are allowed to have buttons on a display
but if you press one of them and speed goes off it must return on its own to show speed setting again ( not sure if there is a time stipulation )
dont know why fan didnt work ( it has an automatic temp switch and a push button overide ) could be fuse, we did have a problem with the other fusebox
that was in the car and when a new fuse was pushed in the inners of the fusebox fell apart and shorted out on the scuttle, but after that all the
other stuff was checked again and worked ???
real bummer not being able to test emisions, thats the most difficult bit of the test really with it being on carbs.
cheers
marc
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daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 06:06 PM |
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thanks marc. we will get their in the end im sure. will see you on saturday. hope your feeling better mate.
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TimC
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 06:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
pics will be comng when its complete tim. thanks to everyone for advice! tim; do you know if the veypor will display the screen i set it to as soon
as ignition is turned? when we turned ignition the veypor had to be turned on!
Thats cool about the pics. Something has changed in the VR2 settings. You can set the start-up screen and I didn't used to have to switch it
on - it was wired straight off the fusebox from the longacre doomsday switch. I guess you've had an ignition key fitted but it sounds like a
settings change.
The fuse box wasn't my favourite thing on the car. Could I find a one-in/many out unit? No - and I searched for ages!
I'm gutted for you but pleased that the car is essentially safe so not too bad!
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marc n
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 06:10 PM |
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thanks marc. we will get their in the end im sure. will see you on saturday. hope your feeling better mate.
getting there cheers
going to try and get in tomorrow so i can see whats what, and come up with a plan, i do have a digital speedo unit that we sometimes use on sva that
will sort the dash problem we just need a cheap rev counter so they can check for noise / emmisions
see you saturday all being well
cheers
marc
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daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 06:12 PM |
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if emmisions were done at start then i would be ok but 2 hours into test and after he was revving the arse of it for niose (stationary with no fan) i
never stood a chance. thats the only major issue i think.dont want to have to tow it another 120 miles if it fails again on emissions!
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marc n
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 06:13 PM |
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The fuse box wasn't my favourite thing on the car. Could I find a one-in/many out unit? No - and I searched for ages
it wasnt a big problem more of a shock ( in both ways ) ended up sikaflexing the whole of the back of the unit together to avaoid a repeat as it
was a right bugger to get to
car looks very good i have to say and is still my favourite colour combo 
cheers
marc
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TimC
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 06:18 PM |
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My last post tonight as I have an exam that I should be revising for. I think the VR2 should be a simple fix - Marc is a wizz with a bit of ali!
This has to be preferable to the bike clocks since the yamaha speed sensor is gone (you have a custom ali plug in that hole) and you'd also have
to deal with tacho-tang from the lack of EIS and associated valve.
Good luck!
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busakid
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 08:00 PM |
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sva
what time did you get home daniel ,i got in at 8 oclock after dropping car of at mnr cheers richard
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JoelP
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 08:32 PM |
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you could VERY easily wire up a pedal bike speedo with a magnet on a wheel. Falls off after the test!
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Guinness
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 09:14 PM |
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I can't believe that they failed the VR2. I passed with mine 3 years ago.
Have a look on the Veypor website, for the latest downloads:-
http://www.veypor.co.uk/downloads.html
to see if there is a fix.
Or ask on the forum
http://veypor.com/forum/index.php
If you explain to them the problem with SVA, perhaps they might write an SVA version of the code, with just speed, revs and gear indicator permanently
displayed and both buttons disabled.
If they don't write an SVA version of the software, they stand to lose a lot of sales (IMHO).
Mike
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iain b
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 09:34 PM |
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sorry mate .but u will get there...............chin up .see u saturday at mnr
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daniel mason
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| posted on 2/4/09 at 09:42 PM |
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cheers iain. it was quite an enjoyable day apart from the bomb that went off under the bonnett when we started to test emissions,lol.
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