coozer
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 05:39 PM |
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Silver on Black plates?
What is the cut off year for black number plates?
Say my Jago is 1974 but on a Q, can I use black plates?
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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fha772
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 05:43 PM |
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Sorry, old K reg is the last year of the black plates.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
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r1_pete
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 05:44 PM |
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1st January 1973 is the cut off Steve, I doubt you'd have any prblems with the Jago with White on Black, as long as they are regulation size.
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Humbug
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 06:28 PM |
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Since Q registrations didn't start until 1983, they wouldn't qualify for whit/silver on black plates.
Also, how could a 1974 car have a Q plate? Stolen recovered?
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Fozzie
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 06:59 PM |
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Q plates cannot be anything other than current style.......
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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coozer
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 07:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Humbug
Since Q registrations didn't start until 1983, they wouldn't qualify for whit/silver on black plates.
Also, how could a 1974 car have a Q plate? Stolen recovered?
I have some history... it was originally built with the donor reg, NTA 189M - 1974. I have some docs from 1992 when it had a DVLA inspection and was
re-regged on a Q.
Last MOT has year of manufacture as 1974... still waiting for the V5, they have cashed the cheque...
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Fozzie
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 09:01 PM |
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It still has to be pre 1973 though, and yours is 1974........ 
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Danozeman
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| posted on 31/5/10 at 09:26 PM |
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Is it jersey or guernsey that has black and silver? You could register it there.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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bj928
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 02:46 AM |
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because its a Q plate it can use black and silvers, a Q plate is a Q plate becasue the vehicle is of an unknown year, it may have been built in 74 but
was given a Q because it didn't get the number of points to take 74's plate or was made from a number of vehicles from about that year, i
think you'll find as far as MOT goes, most things on a Q plate car are tested and seen as pre 73, the fact its a Q plate means the police and or
anyone else can't say it is or isn't pre 73, so black and silvers are fine, i will be using them on mine, and i will fight if i get a
ticket.
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Humbug
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bj928
because its a Q plate it can use black and silvers, a Q plate is a Q plate becasue the vehicle is of an unknown year, it may have been built in 74 but
was given a Q because it didn't get the number of points to take 74's plate or was made from a number of vehicles from about that year, i
think you'll find as far as MOT goes, most things on a Q plate car are tested and seen as pre 73, the fact its a Q plate means the police and or
anyone else can't say it is or isn't pre 73, so black and silvers are fine, i will be using them on mine, and i will fight if i get a
ticket.
I beg to differ: MOT rules for emissions etc. are separate and car is "treated as if it were pre-73" for emissions only.
Rules for black and white plates are clear: vehicle constructed before 1 Jan 1973, so IMHO no Q plated cars would qualify.
If in doubt, check the V5 for date of construction.
...having said all that, plod might not be very clued up when it comes to Q plates, so you might in practice get away with it.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 02:40 PM |
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Exactly what Humbug said ^^^.... 
Emissions are a totally separate thing.
Coozer, black and silvers are only permissible on cars manufactured before 1st January 1973......
Do the police know about Q plates and black and silvers? .... well the 'old school' will, don't know about the 'newer'
ones...so as Humbug said,...you 'might' get away with it.....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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coozer
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 03:06 PM |
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Still waiting for the V5... anyway's if it says:
"date of registration 1974"
Then:
"Year of manufacture = Unknown"
Can I claim pre 74? AND, more important can I claim historic status and free road tax?
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Humbug
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 03:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Still waiting for the V5... anyway's if it says:
"date of registration 1974"
Then:
"Year of manufacture = Unknown"
Can I claim pre 74? AND, more important can I claim historic status and free road tax?
Don't think so mate... I think they used to go purely on the registration, but made exceptions for cars registered on/after 1 Jan 73 if there
was documentary evidence that they had been manufactured beforehand, e.g. factory records with the chassis number. In this case "Year of
manufacture unknown" doesn't prove it is pre 73
[Edited on 01.06.2010 by Humbug]
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Fozzie
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 03:40 PM |
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Aw bless Coozie ...
I think you will find that if the year of manufacture is stated as unknown, 'they' will take the year it was registered......and IIRC
'M' was August 1973 to July 1974 ....
So,.... to have been any where near a chance it would have to have been an 'L' suffix....(August 1972-July 1973) .....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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