Russell
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posted on 3/2/11 at 10:03 PM |
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VX Zafira hire car would fail IVA!
I've currently got a Vauxhall Zafira 1.8 petrol on hire. I noticed when I refuelled it that the fuel flap unlocks with the central locking but
the filler cap inside has no lock itself and isn't tethered to the filler neck. Hence it's possible to leave the cap off after fuelling
and drive away. It's not like some tethering device has fallen off this particular car because a different Zafira I had last week had the same
filler cap arrangement.
Wouldn't this be an IVA fail? If so, how do Vauxhall get away with it on a 2010 model year car? Discuss
I'm a bilingual illiterate. I can't read in two languages.
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scootz
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posted on 3/2/11 at 10:07 PM |
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Nope...
It's Evolution Baby!
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graememk
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posted on 3/2/11 at 10:09 PM |
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you should see the lengths of unsupported brake lines under the bonnet of my birds corsa
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owelly
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posted on 3/2/11 at 10:40 PM |
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The rules for EU type approval are very different than those for the IVA. If you have EU type approval, then you don't need the IVA. The
ergonomics of new cars conflict with the IVA regs and some of the lights on new cars wouldn't pass. Similarly, if you were to use parts from a
new factory car on your kit, then it may still fail the IVA.
Don't bother to discuss.....
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pekwah1
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posted on 3/2/11 at 10:43 PM |
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so do the testers assume that because the car is made by a big company and mass produced that it will be well built and can be less stringent that
some little vagrant like myself building a car for road use on my own in a dark, smelly garage with nothing but a hacksaw and a hammer!?!!
It doesn't make sense to me...
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matt_claydon
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posted on 4/2/11 at 07:36 AM |
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I suspect it has an anti spill flap inside the neck which prevents any fuel coming out in the event the cap is left. This is an acceptable alternative
in type approval to the key or tether, I would have thought IVA would allow it as well.
IVA is just watered down type approval; usually the requirements are relaxed a bit for IVA but sometimes there are more complicated ways of complying
with various things that would be too difficult to include in a document as simple as the IVA manual.
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britishtrident
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posted on 4/2/11 at 08:38 AM |
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Type approval is needing tightened up and made an even playing field accross Europe particularly on lighting the positioning of the lights on some
VAG and Renault Nissan cars is very poor.
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stevegough
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posted on 4/2/11 at 01:04 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by graememk
you should see the lengths of unsupported brake lines under the bonnet of my birds corsa
I find this funny, but I don't quite know why?....
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Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
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speedyxjs
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posted on 4/2/11 at 01:14 PM |
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Mate of mine has a new(ish) focus which doesn't have a filler cap at all!
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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daviep
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posted on 4/2/11 at 01:47 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by graememk
you should see the lengths of unsupported brake lines under the bonnet of my birds corsa
There is nothing in the IVA manual which stipulates minimum distances between fixings for brake pipes, only that they must be adequatley supported.
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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loggyboy
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posted on 4/2/11 at 01:54 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by pekwah1
so do the testers assume that because the car is made by a big company and mass produced that it will be well built and can be less stringent that
some little vagrant like myself building a car for road use on my own in a dark, smelly garage with nothing but a hacksaw and a hammer!?!!
It doesn't make sense to me...
IVA Testers dont care about type approved cars as they dont have to test them! (except imports, but then they have the get out caluse of 'In
the case of unmodified Mass Produced vehicles the standards in this section shall be considered to be met.'
[Edited on 4/2/11 by loggyboy]
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