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stevegough

posted on 14/7/12 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
Those are excellent fixes in such a short timeframe. That dash looks reet great! Best of luck on monday! - up at 5 am is it?





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parkiboy

posted on 15/7/12 at 08:55 AM Reply With Quote
Haha not far off aiming to leave the house around 6.30; have to be there for 8.30 and it's 1 hour 15 away do gives me plenty of time to allow for traffic etc
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yellowcab

posted on 15/7/12 at 10:03 AM Reply With Quote
I can't believe the hoops they make one jump through for these IVA's






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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 11:59 AM Reply With Quote
Just got back from the test and it failed on emissions which is bloody annoying as i took it to MK to set it up, they think either the power commander somehow lost its map or there equipment needs calibrating.

There were aswell of a couple of little niggles i could have sorted while i was there to get it through if it was not for the emissions but since it was not passing i figured i'd sort it at home.

I trailered the car there so i knew it was 100% getting there because the car had not been road tested and i didnt want to brake down on the way. i braved the rain on the way home and drove it home all seems spot on, had no problems or niggles at all so i think ill drive it to my retest which will hopefully be next week!

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adithorp

posted on 16/7/12 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
Hard luck... but thats not bad as fails go.

What were your emmisions figures? The car emmision test on a BEC can be hit and miss to pass and (to be fair to MK) it can easily read right one time and not the next.





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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 12:52 PM Reply With Quote
Fast idle 1 co2 was 3.96
Fast idle 2 co2 was 2.28
Natural idle test co2 was 1.97

Readings were really high, seemed to be running really rich.

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Davegtst

posted on 16/7/12 at 01:40 PM Reply With Quote
Should that be co not co2? After setting mine up I have got it to 0.1 co but that was with the fuel pressure turned right down to 23psi.
Do mk use a gas analyser or is it just guesswork? Real shame you didn't get through.

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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 01:50 PM Reply With Quote
sorry yes its co thats what i meant. Do you have a power commander? after i get it sorted this time i could send you the map?


[Edited on 16/7/12 by parkiboy]

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Davegtst

posted on 16/7/12 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
No not a power commander but similar system called a healtech fi tuner and a fuel pressure regulator. Probably would be a good idea to take it to a friendly local mot station and get it checked properly or take it back to mk and get them to sort it. You did pay them to sort the emissions after all. Youre welcome to use my gas analyser but it's a bit of a trek for you.
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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 05:36 PM Reply With Quote
thanks for the offer but ill just get MK to double check it once its done and hope it doesnt adjust by the time i get to its retest!
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stevegough

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:01 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like a damn good fail to me! - Dare I say "well done that man?"

What were the 'niggles' ?





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adithorp

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
How long did you spend getting the cat' hot?

It can take quite a while at quite a lot of revs to get the cat to "light up", especially if there's no heat shield or wrap to keep the heat in.

What were your HC and lambda readings?





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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
He seemed to try his best to get it to warm up and tested it several times the guy is spot on at Nottingham he does anything he can to help you! I'm driving it to the retest so the cat should be nice and hot then!

Here is a full list just how it reads on the ticket first values being what it should be, can I ask what is hc?

Fast idle speed 1
Co 0.20 3.96 fail
Hc 200 251 fail
Lambda 0. 97 1.03 0.882 fail

Fast idle speed 2
Co 0.20 2.28 fail
Hc 200 170 pass
Lambda 0.97 1.03 0.930 fail

Natural idle test
Co 0.30 1.97 fail

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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Sounds like a damn good fail to me! - Dare I say "well done that man?"

What were the 'niggles' ?


Because the steering column is adjustable it can be dropped to the chassis do the adjuster needs cutting off
Fuel cap needs to be tethered
Bit of sanding and trim to put on the seats (he offered to give me some edging if I didn't have enough!)
Speedo needed changing from kph to mph (2 min job forgot to do it of I'm honest)

The Front indicators were 10mm too low too but we just bent the extension bar up during the test for it to pass, they will "fall off" after the test anyways lol

But other than that which could have all been done there it was all spot on!

[Edited on 16/7/12 by parkiboy]

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stevegough

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by parkiboy
quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Sounds like a damn good fail to me! - Dare I say "well done that man?"

What were the 'niggles' ?


Because the steering column is adjustable it can be dropped to the chassis do the adjuster needs cutting off
Fuel cap needs to be tethered
Bit of sanding and trim to put on the seats (he offered to give me some edging if I didn't have enough!)
Speedo needed changing from kph to mph (2 min job forgot to do it of I'm honest)

The Front indicators were 10mm too low too but we just bent the extension bar up during the test for it to pass, they will "fall off" after the test anyways lol

But other than that which could have all been done there it was all spot on!

[Edited on 16/7/12 by parkiboy]



As you said - all easy fixes you could have done on the day.....shame about the emissions, but there again - should have gone CEC not BEC!! (Its a CAR.....not a 4-wheeled beancan!)





Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14

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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
quote:
Originally posted by parkiboy
quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Sounds like a damn good fail to me! - Dare I say "well done that man?"

What were the 'niggles' ?


Because the steering column is adjustable it can be dropped to the chassis do the adjuster needs cutting off
Fuel cap needs to be tethered
Bit of sanding and trim to put on the seats (he offered to give me some edging if I didn't have enough!)
Speedo needed changing from kph to mph (2 min job forgot to do it of I'm honest)

The Front indicators were 10mm too low too but we just bent the extension bar up during the test for it to pass, they will "fall off" after the test anyways lol

But other than that which could have all been done there it was all spot on!

[Edited on 16/7/12 by parkiboy]



As you said - all easy fixes you could have done on the day.....shame about the emissions, but there again - should have gone CEC not BEC!! (Its a CAR.....not a 4-wheeled beancan!)


do you know what CEC vs BEC is something i thought alot about i settled on wanting a CEC then on a bit of an impulse buy i bought my hayabusa BEC and after my first experience driving it today i'm so glad i did! ive been in a few CECs never ever experienced a BEC and got to say i love everything about it, I love the noise the, the sequential gear box and being a 3.14 diff it was surprisingly nice on the motorway! It really did feel special just cant wait for a proper drive!

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adithorp

posted on 16/7/12 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
Well the rest are easy enough fixes.

HC is hydro-carbons measured in parts/million and is basically a measure of un-burnt fuel. Overall I'd say that was running rich rather than the cat not ho (altough that might not be helping)t. High CO, high HC and low Lambda all point towards that.

A couple of other things worth noting...
Holding the revs and throttle steady during the test isn't easy and variations effect the readings. Try using the idle screw to speed it u.p
My fan was cutting in and out on my first test and making it hard (failed) so for retest I'd wired in an override switch and kept it on.
If you've been doing lots of running in the workshop it might benfit from a new set of plugs as there performance is affected by that and the don't seem to recover.

Did you have a laptop with the P/Commander software with you? Then you can tweek it at the test should it need it





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parkiboy

posted on 16/7/12 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Well the rest are easy enough fixes.

HC is hydro-carbons measured in parts/million and is basically a measure of un-burnt fuel. Overall I'd say that was running rich rather than the cat not ho (altough that might not be helping)t. High CO, high HC and low Lambda all point towards that.

A couple of other things worth noting...
Holding the revs and throttle steady during the test isn't easy and variations effect the readings. Try using the idle screw to speed it u.p
My fan was cutting in and out on my first test and making it hard (failed) so for retest I'd wired in an override switch and kept it on.
If you've been doing lots of running in the workshop it might benfit from a new set of plugs as there performance is affected by that and the don't seem to recover.

Did you have a laptop with the P/Commander software with you? Then you can tweek it at the test should it need it


we used the idle screw for the revs rather than me in the car, i also have already got the fan over ride switch and left it on for the test

i didnt have a laptop with me as i figured it will pass but i will be taking it with me next time to make a few tweaks if necessary - failure next week is not an option :p

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