ste
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 04:42 AM |
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My old car what's going on??
it's on ebay at the moment. I built it from the original kit and sva's it in 2009. It went on an age related 'H' plate.
It's now on ebay on an '09' plate.
looks dodgy to me, what's going on?
kit car,robin hood 2b with c20xe redtop
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jeffw
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 05:18 AM |
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First registered in 2009 with a 09 plate on it? Maybe the H plate was sold and an age correct plate was put on it.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 05:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
First registered in 2009 with a 09 plate on it? Maybe the H plate was sold and an age correct plate was put on it.
Can't do that, the age related plate would give it an effective H reg date (despite being 'new' at first reg in 2009) and
shouldn't let you put any plate newer than H reg on it.
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neilp1
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 06:01 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
First registered in 2009 with a 09 plate on it? Maybe the H plate was sold and an age correct plate was put on it.
Can't do that, the age related plate would give it an effective H reg date (despite being 'new' at first reg in 2009) and
shouldn't let you put any plate newer than H reg on it.
After rapping my 1st tiger I bought it back off the insurance company. It was on an F plate registered in 2004. Someone wanted the plate so took it
off the car and ended up with an 04 reg.
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jeffw
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 06:03 AM |
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DVLA have the plate as on a Blue Robin Hood 2B, first registered in June 2009.
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ste
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 06:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
DVLA have the plate as on a Blue Robin Hood 2B, first registered in June 2009.
I know, that's the issue. Where I built it I used a H reg Sierra and got an age related H plate. H915LNA was the plate it was issued.
Obviously something dodgy somewhere. I've messaged the seller and he isn't saying much and not really answering my questions
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jeffw
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 07:08 AM |
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Not sure why you are concerned really. It is correctly listed by DVLA against that plate so happy days.
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rf900rush
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 07:22 AM |
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I can see how it could happen.
My kit was registered in 2003 using a 1988 Sierra.
By the time I sold it, I could not find any evidence on my V5 of it being built from a 1988 car.
I could not see any reason why how DVLA would not wrongly give it a 2003 plate.
The "system" is not set up for kit cars etc.
Too be honest, I don't think the year of registration matters so much with kits rather than the quality of build and condition.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 07:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by neilp1
After rapping my 1st tiger I bought it back off the insurance company. It was on an F plate registered in 2004. Someone wanted the plate so took it
off the car and ended up with an 04 reg.
^^ I didn't say the DVLA were any good at following their own rules..... 
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ste
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 08:14 AM |
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It is wrong though. It is incorrect of the DVLA to issue it with an 09 plate.
It is a con to put a newer plate on an older car and pass it off as that age. The car is a rebuild of a H reg sierra and should be registered as such
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mcerd1
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 10:31 AM |
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Also a '09' plate will make it much harder to persuade some garages to test the emissions to an 'H' reg (pre-CAT) standard...
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killerferret666
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 04:16 PM |
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The V5 will say the date registered just like mine does.
On my build the Donor was a K reg car but the V5 still says first registered 2014. Mine has a personal plate on it, isnt that hiding the age with the
plate to some degree as well?!?! Because being honest, yep that's my intention to the average road user. However when selling ill be clear it
was built from a K reg Donor Vehicle and first registered as shown on the V5, 2014
Its what the V5 says in terms of first registration that matters, the rest is down to the seller and if he doesnt know the history then...thats
that
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Originally posted by mcerd1
Also a '09' plate will make it much harder to persuade some garages to test the emissions to an 'H' reg (pre-CAT) standard...
It wont the V5 states the emissions test on it, mine states the 3.5% pre cat test on it so you just take that along to the MOT.
[Edited on 29/8/17 by killerferret666]
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ste
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 07:24 PM |
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So basically what we've learnt is that if you want a brand new reg plate, don't bother with the expense of buying all new parts, just put
a private plate on it then remove it again and drive round in your 17 plate kit car.
Bonus
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mcerd1
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| posted on 29/8/17 at 09:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by killerferret666
The V5 will say the date registered just like mine does.
On my build the Donor was a K reg car but the V5 still says first registered 2014. Mine has a personal plate on it, isnt that hiding the age with the
plate to some degree as well?!?! Because being honest, yep that's my intention to the average road user. However when selling ill be clear it
was built from a K reg Donor Vehicle and first registered as shown on the V5, 2014
Its what the V5 says in terms of first registration that matters, the rest is down to the seller and if he doesnt know the history then...thats
that
^^ almost, but it should also have a note on the V5 saying something like "build from parts that are not new" (I forget the exact wording)
and giving an effective date of the age of the donor car
this limits the personal plates you can fit later - any date upto and including the age of the donor is fine, anything newer is not (as your trying to
pass off old parts as a new car)
but as above the DVLA don't exactly have a good record of following or even understanding their own rules 
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Originally posted by killerferret666
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
Also a '09' plate will make it much harder to persuade some garages to test the emissions to an 'H' reg (pre-CAT) standard...
It wont the V5 states the emissions test on it, mine states the 3.5% pre cat test on it so you just take that along to the MOT.
^^ they don't always add that note either
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killerferret666
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| posted on 30/8/17 at 11:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
^^ almost, but it should also have a note on the V5 saying something like "build from parts that are not new" (I forget the exact wording)
and giving an effective date of the age of the donor car
this limits the personal plates you can fit later - any date upto and including the age of the donor is fine, anything newer is not (as your trying to
pass off old parts as a new car)
but as above the DVLA don't exactly have a good record of following or even understanding their own rules
Cheers for clearing up I forgot that bit. I guess what I was trying to say is its all on the V5 lol
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 30/8/17 at 01:43 PM |
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Looks simply like a DVLA issue with following the rules, hey ho.
At least it's not a 2009 tax 'excepted' Rickman 'Bargin!' with 'awsum breaks' and a 3.5 litre diesel engine.
By which, I mean that I can't see any intended dishonesty here, just an error from officialdom (or the forms they put ticks in the little boxes
on and move on to the next).
What would concern me, as mentioned, is the MoT man and his emission probing for a 2009 XE. However, unlike most, I simply adore the advantages of a
'Q' plate, can't understand why others don't, and never will.
I had an 'age related' 1971 plate when I registered my Ex-Military 1967 land Rover. All supporting paperwork for 1967, including the MoD
manifest presented.... again, hey ho.
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