bud44
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| posted on 1/11/21 at 04:59 PM |
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Conversion to EV
Hello my fellow builders,
Scenario as follows:
I have a vehicle which was in fact a production car, albeit from a low volume manufacturer, came off the production line unfinished and without any
chassis number etc.
I have spent a couple of years putting this togethor, all new parts, 95% of which came from the factory with the chassis and body.
The rest have been sourced and again all new.
Object is to put it through an IVA once finished and get a current registration. I have the new chassis number form the DVLA.
Everything is going very well, shame I cant spend more time around it but with work - well we all know about time etc.
I was thinking the other evening, I have the ideal oppuntunity to switch the ICE for an Electric motor. Now I know there will be big issues with
marrying everything up to the current electronics and I am prepared for that.
The current engine if sold on would pay for all the electrickery etc.
As I understand it the current IVA isnt geared up for electric vehicles - well from what I have read.
Part of me really wants to keep it fully original but there is a little piece of me saying do it.
My main concern is the value once completed, I anticipate with the ICE to be worth 80k +, I would imagine an electirc motor would decrease the value
somewhat; however would an electric motor open up the market thus increasing the desirability ?
I then got to thinking, well at the time of typing this 2030 is cutoff in the uk for newly registrated ICE vehicles; so eight and bit years plus the
lifespan of the vehicle will give another 20 years I guess - so is it really worth considering at all ?
I know someone is going to ask what car, but please can we avoid that, it isnt a merc gullwing replica or anything that fancy or a rare only ten made
kind of thing.
any thoughts from you chaps?
Thanks
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obfripper
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| posted on 1/11/21 at 06:26 PM |
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Have a read here, it used to be possible with a sub 48v ev, but now all iva submitted ev's need to comply with RESS ECE R100 which requires a
vca inspection/type approval at £6k before iva.
http://www.batteryvehiclesociety.org.uk/bvsorguk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3974
Dave
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 2/11/21 at 01:05 AM |
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I can't vouch for the quality of the information, but I read that while getting an EV tested and registered is very hard, converting an existing
vehicle is far easier.
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 2/11/21 at 08:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by obfripper
Have a read here, it used to be possible with a sub 48v ev, but now all iva submitted ev's need to comply with RESS ECE R100 which requires a
vca inspection/type approval at £6k before iva.
http://www.batteryvehiclesociety.org.uk/bvsorguk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3974
Dave
That was posted in 2016 and a few cars have been converted since then.
Keith
Aviemore
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bud44
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| posted on 2/11/21 at 09:33 AM |
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Reading the info link it does seem very difficult and in-fact a total non starter for me.
TBH I would rather keep the ICE inorder to stay true to the marque, it was just an option I considered worthy of pursuing.
I am pretty sure WDs and many of the other TV shows have done just that, converted an already registered vehicle.
I suppose that is the sticking point " already registered ", and not a new vehicle about to be registered.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 2/11/21 at 10:55 AM |
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I'd also go with the engine first just to get it on the road. I looked at the IVA EV requirements and you'd have thought it was written by
an EV hater.
As much as I love EV's, currently converting an ICE to EV seems either very expensive or very complex. I think it's the way forward for
classics (assuming your car is one of those but you don't say). Unfortunately these cars are usually liked by old farts who fear technology and
only go on about how easy it is to fix their unreliable old cars. So I think it would at this would knock a lot off the value of the car unless you
found a more open minded buyer.
What is the car your doing anyway?
[Edited on 2/11/21 by Mr Whippy]
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ReMan
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| posted on 6/11/21 at 04:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
What is the car your doing anyway?
[Edited on 2/11/21 by Mr Whippy]
We're not allowed to ask. tut tut!
www.plusnine.co.uk
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nelmo
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| posted on 8/11/21 at 08:47 PM |
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I don't understand this desire to switch to EV. I can understand if you're not a petrol-head (which I assume we all are on here) and just
want a box to get you from A to B but I can't get over the soundtrack.
EVs are NOT silent, they sound like a wasp convention and once above 40/50mph, all you hear is tyre noise - they're no quieter than any newish
car. And that noise is just horrible - my 2L Zetec sounds awesome in comparison, never mind a v8 on full chat. EVs may accelerate quicker but
there's no theatre, no drama (and yes, I have been in a Tesla).
I watched a video of a bloke on a road trip in a Caterham and his mate in a Tesla - to ensure they could keep the Tesla charged, they had to go via
motorway services and spend an hour sitting in an industrial estate while the Tesla charged up. I went on a 900 mile trip round the back lanes of
Wales and we had a hard enough time finding petrol stations, never mind charging stations. Even when they finally get the infrastructure in place, are
they likely to put chargers on the B324? Is the B&B in the arse end of nowhere going to have a charging point for you to use overnight?
Call me an old fart but give me a normal engine every day. After all, ICE is way cooler. 
[Edited on 8/11/21 by nelmo]
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 10/11/21 at 11:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nelmo
I don't understand this desire to switch to EV. I can understand if you're not a petrol-head (which I assume we all are on here) and just
want a box to get you from A to B but I can't get over the soundtrack.
EVs are NOT silent, they sound like a wasp convention and once above 40/50mph, all you hear is tyre noise - they're no quieter than any newish
car. And that noise is just horrible - my 2L Zetec sounds awesome in comparison, never mind a v8 on full chat. EVs may accelerate quicker but
there's no theatre, no drama (and yes, I have been in a Tesla).
I watched a video of a bloke on a road trip in a Caterham and his mate in a Tesla - to ensure they could keep the Tesla charged, they had to go via
motorway services and spend an hour sitting in an industrial estate while the Tesla charged up. I went on a 900 mile trip round the back lanes of
Wales and we had a hard enough time finding petrol stations, never mind charging stations. Even when they finally get the infrastructure in place, are
they likely to put chargers on the B324? Is the B&B in the arse end of nowhere going to have a charging point for you to use overnight?
Call me an old fart but give me a normal engine every day. After all, ICE is way cooler.
[Edited on 8/11/21 by nelmo]
one day you'll understand
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