Sirius
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 04:28 PM |
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Registering as New query
Hi
I wanted to ask a question about this - I've had a look though the old posts but wanted to clarify.
At the Exeter show last weekend I noticed a number of cars with 05 or 55 registration plates.
Now my understanding from the DVLA website is that this is possible if the vehicle is constructed from all new parts with one reconditioned part at
the most.
One car in particular I noticed was on a 05 plate, but clearly was using a toyota engine, sierra front uprights, a sierra type 9 gearbox and a sierra
diff all of which it is highly unlikely would be new. When I asked the company about it they said that 3-4 parts could be used from a donor but still
get a new plate. But I can only find mention of 1 old part being permitted.
Anyone shed any light on this?
Cheers 
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 04:30 PM |
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Im confused like you Ive been thinking the same for a while how can you only have 1 recon part but those same cars must be using old ford parts
elsewhere in the build
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rayward
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 06:22 PM |
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do the dvla actaully "check" the parts are new, or do they rely on the paperwork(i.e. receipts etc) to show all the parts were new?
if you know what i mean
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oliwb
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 07:09 PM |
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Not done it myself but I have been led to believe that they do not check, and that receipts etc are all that you would need....Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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Guinness
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| posted on 23/11/05 at 07:36 PM |
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I can safely report that the inspection of my Indy carried out by the DVLA was nothing more than a "quick once over" and a good read
through the paperwork.
I turned up at the office , with the car on a trailer, she came out, looked at the car from 5' away, then asked me to take the bonnet off. She
checked the VIN (that I'd made up) was the same as on the forms and then asked where the engine number was. Again she checked it was the same
as the one I'd put on the form, even writing "Ford" in the origin box, despite the big Kawasaki badge on the clutch cover!
That was it, no check underneath to see if the rear axle was from the same Ford Sierra as the front hubs. Nothing. Bonnet back on and we're
back inside. 3 minutes tops.
I had previously given them the V5 and Vin Plate off my donor Sierra and filled in the form to say all appropriate parts were from that vehicle.
It might be a different story if you were applying for a new registration, but I'd imagine that if you had a good set of reciepts, and it
wasn't rusty, you'd get a new reg.
I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect that whilst Swansea have a clear set of rules, the interpretation of those rules is down to the individual
office and the individual officer. Having spoken to the woman who did mine, she said somthing along the lines of "I had to check the regs on
these, because I only do one every six months or so".
HTH
Mike
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Tiger Super Six
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 09:27 AM |
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My understsanding was that if the parts are reconditioned to 'as new' on the receipt then this is OK for the new reg.
One thing to remember is that if you get a new reg you have to meet the stricter emissions rulings - not always a good thing.
Remember once a car has been registered on an old age related plate then it only ever has to meet those emissions - you can then put brand new engines
in without the need for CAT's etc.
My understanding from what I have done.
Mark
Mark
Tiger Avon
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DarrenW
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 09:55 AM |
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To me it doesnt matter what the reg is. If you get age related you can stick a cherished palte on. Log book says year of manufacture and date of
registration anyway. Couple to the fact that most Joe Publics havent a clue what the cars are, only that the back end gets mighty small after 6
seconds!!. I cant see the point in spending a whole load more cash on refurbing everything to as new unless you really want to. Far better to get it
on road and replace / refurb as and when required or in line with future upgrades and winter projects.
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smart51
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 11:41 AM |
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You could always use a 2005 donor vehicle
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Sirius
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 12:19 PM |
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OK thanks for the replies - all clear now. Only reason I ask is that If theres an easy route of avoiding a Q plate I'll take it its not a huge
issue though.
It seems the only way of legitimately doing this is to go for an age related plate from a single donor, only problem is I really don't have room
for a rusty old sierra and was going to source the donor bits seperately. Perhaps I can convince the GF's father to let me use his drive for a
while
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smart51
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 12:34 PM |
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You could ask a scrap dealer to remove the bits for you and ask for the V5 from the donor car.
Personally, I wouldn'y strip the donor at home. I would buy some reconditioned parts from one of the donor car companies that supply the useful
bits of old fords with new bearings, seals and paint. As they buy lots of old fords, they will have all the V5s as well, I would think.
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Tiger Super Six
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| posted on 24/11/05 at 12:56 PM |
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If you go for an age related rather than a new reg then you should have no problems.
As long as the engine number shows on the V5 that you have there are no other numbers for the other parts that you would use (i.e. diff, front end,
gearbox etc) - They could be from any sierra.
The thing you need is the V5, when you have that you can change the engine.
HTH
Mark
Tiger Avon
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