birt
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:11 PM |
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Why go for a new registraion plate?
Can I ask why so many people want to get a new registraion and not a Q plate?
I am nearing the end of my build and unless I am missing something (which I probably am) I see no benefit from trying to get a new reg.
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oliwb
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:28 PM |
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The problem of a Q-plate is that you can't tranfer anything to it. For example you wont be able to buy a private number plate and transfer it
onto the locost. At least thats how i understand it anyway although someone may know otherwise. Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:37 PM |
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a car with xx55 xxx is more desirable than one that starts with the letter Q
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Tiger Super Six
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 01:52 PM |
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There are two sides - a car with an xx55 xxx appears more desirable but may lead to issues with exhaust emmissions at future MOT's.
My thought is that a car with a 'Q' plate cannot have a personal reg applied to it. If you go for an age related plate, be it new or the
age of the donor, then a personal reg can be applied. On this type of car quite a few people put private plates on.
Mark
Tiger Avon
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02GF74
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 02:04 PM |
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which would you prefer, to drive Q894GHX or M15ERY or B16NOB?
What about insurance, aren't some companies biased against Q plates?
And Qudos - a Q plate implies home built jallopy put together by a blind man wherease a proper plate is made properly by proper robots?
I am about to contact DVLA about my donor as I aim for an age realted plate but if I get a Q, then so bi it.,
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smart51
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 02:04 PM |
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A brand new plate is partly for pose value. People may hope to get more for it when they come to sell it, except that this might backfire if the car
is 5 or 6 years old and buyers might perceve it as an "old" car and pay accordingly.
An age related place has a bit of snobbery attached to it as it is "proper" and "not one of them Q things" Ill informed
buyers may be less wary of a non-Q plate.
Q plates were set asside for cars of questionable age. That is cars whose engine and chassis numbers had been removed or cars that were built from
the good parts of 2 donors. Mechanics would buy a rear ended write off and an MOT failure write off and make one working car from all the bits.
There were also "cut and shut" cars that were a bit dodgy. Kit cars are often built from scrap and DVLA rules say that unless you use a
lot of parts from one car, they don't know what "age" the kit car is and so it has to have a Q plate.
Q plates, because of the unknown age, have a simpler MOT test for emissions, I believe.
Do you want to put a personal plate on it? If no, then a Q is Fine.
Are you embarrased by a Q plate or is the car itself what you want to drive.
Do Q plate kit cars really sell for less than G plates, for example?
Are you going to sell your kit car at all? Then why should you care what potential buyers think?
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birt
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 02:57 PM |
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Interesting comments, cheers.
I thought there must have been more to it than that. I have no intention on putting a private plate on my car... Why would anyone do such a thing?
It is just a bunch of numbers and letters.. I suppose it is up to the individual what they spends there money on but surely such money would be wiser
spent on upgrading something or on a couple of track days or on some driver tuition, basically something that might add to the driving experience?
As for snobbery (!) It's a kit car, no matter how nicely built, anyone who believes it is worth more with a different registration plate is
barmy, surely the log book states exactly when it was built and it had to pass the same SVA scrutineering that any other kit car has.
I am fast thinking Q plates are the way forward, less hassle at registration and easier emissions test.
I was hoping someone might give me a real good reason to push for a new reg...
'02GF74' states that insurance companies may not like Q plates, if this is true and I may end up paying over the odds insurance then that
WOULD be a good reason to go for a new reg. Can anybody confirm this??
Thanks
Marc
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greggors84
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 03:46 PM |
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You dont have to go for a new reg, you can get an age related one which means you will use the same prefix as your donor vehicle.
Its very hard to build a locost or even a cheapish kitcar and go for a new reg as all main parts need to be brand new with the exception of one but
that has to be re conditioned professionally to new standard and you need the reciepts to proove. Ive heard some DVLA centres are less strict on this
though.
If you used at least 3 of the main componets (front axle, rear axle, steering, engine, gearbox, brakes) from your donor you should have no problem
getting an age related plate.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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awinter
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 03:46 PM |
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Q-Plate are visual smoke for exhaust emissions. No testing at all except for the inspectors eyes. means you can put any engine you want in the car. As
for insurance, if you get specialiast Kit Car insurance don't think the plate matters.
Only if you had a cossie or simalar where a Q can mean stolen/recovered and such like.
MOT man likes the Q as its less hassle.
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 04:32 PM |
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The emissions targets are not effected by the registration of the car.
SVA goes on the engine age before the car is registered and MOT is based on one of two things 1) if the car has anything on the log book suggesting a
standard of test required ie a Cat then that test has to be met
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2) an amature constructed Kit Car is subjected to a smoke test.
I have a personalised registration but that was because my wife bought it for me. I am of the opinion that Q reg cars are not so desireable second
hand and that certainly seems to be bourne out by adverts in the various mags.
regards
Keith
Suffolk
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cerbera
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 05:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by birt
'02GF74' states that insurance companies may not like Q plates, if this is true and I may end up paying over the odds insurance then that
WOULD be a good reason to go for a new reg. Can anybody confirm this??
Ive just paid £145 with Adrian Flux to insure my Q plate, with 3000 mileage limit. Which I thought was very reasonable
[Edited on 14/12/05 by cerbera]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 07:39 PM |
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I built my car to drive - it's my toy car - so I really didn't care what registration I got. Less hassle at registration time,
certainly.
As far as I'm concerned, the car doesn't owe me anything, as I don't consider it as an investment or worry about resale value. It
has already repaid me in the fun it's given during the build, and the time I've already had on the road.
As for personalised plates, there are rumours that there will be special Q-plates available before too long.
I paid even less than cerbera for my insurance!
rgds,
David
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Humbug
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| posted on 14/12/05 at 10:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
... As for personalised plates, there are rumours that there will be special Q-plates available before too long...
It was under consideration but the DVLA have canned the idea:
"Will Q registration marks become available for sale?
The Agency has decided that it will not be releasing Q registration marks for sale. It has emerged that the costs involved in providing sale and
transfer facilities would be greater than any return, given the limited number of vehicles that would be eligible to participate. Additionally, the
recent review of registration inspection procedures indicated very strong support for retaining the existing policy on Q marks, for consumer
protection reasons."
http://www.dvla-som.co.uk/home/en/FAQ/
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DarrenW
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| posted on 15/12/05 at 09:30 AM |
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This is my take on the subject;
1. Personally dont mind a Q. Nobody will know the vehicle age. You know how much blood sweat and tears went into it. You also know that it is a high
quality individual amateur built vehicle and NOT a badly repaired write off. oh - and you cant see the plate when driving it.
Police dont like Q's - apparently difficult to trace history etcso DVLA try to issue age related.
2. New reg - too expensive to build. Too tricky for emmisions etc.
3. Age related. Mine will be 'H'. Car isnt H reg but i can fit private plate. H is old enough to qualify for higher emissions. All in all
OK for me.
Personally it doesnt matter what plate you get as long as you have the photographic build history, receipts, service history etc.
As far as ins and Q's - i dont think there is a problem here 'cos most people use specialist kit insurance / second car etc. The high
street companies may shun them but they wont be competitive anyway.
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02GF74
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| posted on 15/12/05 at 11:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cerbera
quote:
Originally posted by birt
'02GF74' states that insurance companies may not like Q plates, if this is true and I may end up paying over the odds insurance then that
WOULD be a good reason to go for a new reg. Can anybody confirm this??
Ive just paid £145 with Adrian Flux to insure my Q plate, with 3000 mileage limit. Which I thought was very reasonable
[Edited on 14/12/05 by cerbera]
I called Adrian Flux this morning and gave them your details: name, address, age, credit card details, previous accidnents and convictions, same
limited mileage and car details EXCEPT I said the registration was R890KKL.
They quote me £ 130 fully comp. Go figure!! 
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