John.Taylor
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 12:19 PM |
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New reg or carry over donor reg?
I'm using a singe Sierra donor and more than likely, an MK Indy deluxe starter kit. As I'm going to be using the engine, box, prop, diff,
hubs, etc. off the Sierra, I assume that this will be enough to carry over the original 1989 F-registration?
I have noticed quite a few people posting recently who have been given 'new' registrations. What would I have to do to get a new 06-reg
(more likely to be a 56 by the time I've finished)?
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ned
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 12:23 PM |
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you will only get an age related plate - never the donor plate.
for an 06 plate you need to have receipts for all new or reconditioned parts, youwould also have to meet current emissions standards.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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RazMan
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 12:25 PM |
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Technically you can only get a new registration if you have all new components in your build (you will have to submit invoices to prove this) You are
allowed to have one donor component, usually the engine, which must be reconditioned to 'as new' condition to qualify. Otherwise you get
an age related plate
[Edited on 29-3-06 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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John.Taylor
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 12:40 PM |
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Looks like I'm on the F-reg then.
Ned, are you saying that I will get a random F-reg rather than the plate off my Sierra? Gonna have to add new number plates to my ever increasing
budget if so 
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 12:41 PM |
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mate as above youll get an age related plate
getting a new plates is a bit of hassle Id say my indy has cost £9k and I still wont get a new plate
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ned
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 01:45 PM |
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yes, it will be a random age related f-plate by the sounds of it, not the one from your donor.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Fozzie
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 02:04 PM |
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Yup, Neds absolutely correct!  ........random age related, NOT donor registration.
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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smart51
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 02:26 PM |
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You can get an 06 / 56 reg plate by using an 06/56 donor. Use an engine / gearbox from a newish bike and you're away. Jou just need to find
someone who has bought and totaled a brand new super bike.
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robertst
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 02:35 PM |
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talking about legal stuff. (sorry if im hijacking the post)
i am getting kinda paranoid about my donor.
i know the law is different in the UK than in Spain, but i guess most comes from the EU anyway.
when i bought my donor, he gave me the keys and documents and i gave him the money. thats about it... now, since we didnt change the registration or
did a contract.... im worrying that by the time i strip the car, there will be no proof that i own the car... i know that to scrap it i can do it with
a written authorization from the owner or person registered to the car (in both cases not me)... so am i screwed? or is it just a figment of my
imagination?
thanks (again sorry if i hijacked the post )
Tom
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wilkingj
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| posted on 29/3/06 at 09:22 PM |
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Whats wrong with a "Q" Plate... they only get Visual Smoke test at MoT's. A "F" plate will have to conform to the
emissions for a F Plate car.
There are definate advantages of a Q Plate with older engines.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Hellfire
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| posted on 30/3/06 at 11:32 AM |
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Geoff, thats not quite correct. Any kit car with a registration prefix prior to 1st August 1998 (ie, S) will get a visual smoke test come MOT time.
Phil
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Hellfire
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| posted on 30/3/06 at 11:35 AM |
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Here's the requirements for MOT.
A - If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your
age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the
age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to
its age and NOT the vehicle registration number.
B - If your vehicle has a CURRENT/NEW plate or one that is after 1st August 1998, you will get a ‘basic’ emissions test, which is a basic check
conducted to set limits carried out BEFORE the ‘CAT’ test. If you pass…..GREAT. If you fail though you’ll be subject to a full ‘by-the-book’ CAT test,
plus remember that if you fail this you’ll also fail the MOT. Of course there are plenty of CURRENT/NEW registered kits running around with
reconditioned engines so in this instance you will have to prove the age of the engine to the MOT tester. Ideally you should have a copy of your SVA
MAC ‘pass’ certificate, which will be sufficient. Otherwise you will have to get a letter from the engines manufacturer stating clearly what year the
engine was made.
C - Cars with a ‘Q’ plate are regarded as being of uncertain age so therefore will continue to be subject to the visible smoke test.
Phil
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Broadside Motorsport
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 posted on 30/3/06 at 05:43 PM |
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So let me get this right,
If I build a car, completely from parts I've made or have bought new, appart from the engine, which is reconditioned to "new"
condition, does this mean I can get an 06/56 plate? Does this then mean I have to pass the CAT test in an MOT even if the engine I fit doesn't
have a CAT as standard?
On another note, does buying a custom propshaft count as new or buying a reconditioned to new diff count if I had reciepts or would I have to go and
buy say a quaife item and have reciepts or does it have to be a "factory" ie ford item brand new?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 31/3/06 at 12:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Broadside Motorsport
So let me get this right,
If I build a car, completely from parts I've made or have bought new, appart from the engine, which is reconditioned to "new"
condition, does this mean I can get an 06/56 plate? Does this then mean I have to pass the CAT test in an MOT even if the engine I fit doesn't
have a CAT as standard?
On another note, does buying a custom propshaft count as new or buying a reconditioned to new diff count if I had reciepts or would I have to go and
buy say a quaife item and have reciepts or does it have to be a "factory" ie ford item brand new?
Yes. Providing you have all the receipts for the new parts, including receipts for the parts used to recondition your engine to an 'as
new' standard, then there is no reason why you shouldn't get a new plate. In accordance with the MOT rules, this obviously means that you
will have to pass the MOT using the basic emissions test.
If you buy a custom propshaft, it obviously depends whether it is a modified prop or indeed new. Your receipt should reflect this  same goes for the
diff. Remember though, that you are only allowed to use 1 major reconditioned component. The engine is quite easy to get round and the diff is usually
the stumbling block in the process. At the end of the day, it all comes down to how knowledgable your DVLA inspector is on kitcar builds. If he
see's that you have a Sierra diff fitted but have a receipt for a Quaiffe diff, then you're rumbled. However, some Inspectors
wouldn't even know the difference. 
Phil
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Broadside Motorsport
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| posted on 31/3/06 at 08:06 PM |
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So if i do fit a new diff from quaife thats ok then. The prop can be sorted cos I know a place that sells custom props and driveshafts to spec so a
reciept wil be with that anyway. Sound, cheers for the advice guys
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