owelly
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 11:15 AM |
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Buying an incorrectly reg'd car.
I know that this subject has been covered before but..........
I have seen several cars for sale (usually on Tebay) that are registered as the original donor car.
As I see it, DVLA had an amnesty a few years ago where you could get the V5 amended but a lot of folks didn't bother.
I also understand there are procedures in place whereby if you can supply an old MOT certificate to prove that the car has been previously used as
whatever it is now.
What I want to know is, if I was to buy a kit that was still V5'd as an Escort but I had no old MOT's what would be the next step? The
past few cars I have been watching have been advertised as 'Road Tax Free' Would this be the case?
On each occasion i have asked the seller the questions but they have told me that the car is wht it says it is and the V5 is OK and they are VED
free.
What happens when it goes for a new 'puterised MOT and the VRM comes up as an Escort?
Just curious as I have no more room for anymore cars....
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DIY Si
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 11:29 AM |
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Free road tax is purely age related for these type of vehicles, so they must be registered as the donor car. From what I understand, these type of
vehicles should require the sva test. But you may get away without it. Then again, it's a good way of finding out just how well built the car
is, as the mot test can be passed by roughly any old banger.
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donut
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 11:32 AM |
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As far as i know ( i have read this in a few Kit Car mags) you DO NOT get free road licence with kit cars even if the donor was pre 73 built. Only
cars built before 73 come under the 'Historic vehicle' banner.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 11:33 AM |
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That's what I meant, but better put. This must mean it's still down as an old escort/cortina etc.
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owelly
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 01:14 PM |
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Just a hypothetical scenario.....
Lets imagine that I bought a 'Random Kit' from Ebay. It stated in the listing that it was correctly reg'd and had a few
MOT's.
I spend several weeks rebuilding the car and possibly several hundreds of pounds restoring the car. I then trundle up to the MOT emporium and the
tester tells me he cannot test the vehicle as the vehicle I have taken is not a 'Ford Escgliaevenger'.
I then contact DVLA who insist I have a SVA. The 'Random Kit' has no chance of getting through the SVA.
What could be done?
Don't worry about the legal aspect of any replies as this has not happened to me. I'm still curious!
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Just
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 03:08 PM |
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My understanding is that you would need to get the car up to SVA standard and it would have to pass. If the V5 states incorrectly that the car is
still an Escort et al then insurance would be invalid too I would expect.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 03:32 PM |
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If said' Random Kit' had no chance of passing the sva, would you really want to be driving it round at full beans?
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owelly
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 03:44 PM |
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Yes I would!
Just because my car had an incorrectly radiused spiffle grommet or the winkercators are 15mm too low, doesn't mean it's not safe. If you
see what I mean..?
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DIY Si
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 03:47 PM |
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Mis-read the comments. The way i see it that doesn't constitute quote:
no chance of getting through the SVA
. I would assume that a car that has no chance of passing would have something fundamentaly wrong with it. Ie bad chassis, wonky brakes etc.
rather than an admittidly minor point such as radii etc.
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owelly
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 03:56 PM |
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As stated, this is all hypothetical. The cars I already have have no hope of passing the SVA due to the silly 'cosmetic' things. They
would probably fail on more important things but as they are already reg'd, it's not a problem. And as I have several of the same car that
are all soon to be the same colour................I only need one MOT/TAX/Insurance if I was to be a naughty chimp. IYSWIM?
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DIY Si
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 04:23 PM |
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That would be very naughty of you. But would save a small fortune.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 05:55 PM |
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If the registration document is correct for the type of vehicle you have, then no problem. If the registration document however is incorrect, it means
that you are driving an illegal vehicle and your insurance will also be invalid.
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owelly
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| posted on 27/5/06 at 06:00 PM |
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I don't intend driving a car with the wrong doc's but there will be plenty somewhere judging by the amount of cars passing through the
'Bay with the donors ID. Lets just hope none of them crash into us!!
I phoned DVLA (on another matter) and asked them about the situation with selling/buying cars with the wrong details and they said that you would have
to take the car and all the relevent papers along to a prebooked appointment with them for them to have a look. Not much use unless you have bought
the car and than it would be too late!
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tks
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| posted on 29/5/06 at 06:29 PM |
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mhhh
that will depend on the seller...
you have eyes and can check it yours not?
just ask them what they do check? right?
and then check it yours? if they use the computer then you make copies of the document os write down numbers and then you ask them for details..
should be that easy..not?
Tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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