iiyama
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 04:02 PM |
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Anti theft
I understand that 2 forms of anti theft are required for SVA. Open to correction here!
So if I have no steering lock, and no key for ignition purposes what options are open to me? Im thinking some form of immobiliser and either a battery
kill switch or maybe a removable steering wheel. However Im unsure if the latter will pass SVA.
Also, regards the immobilser, I will be building a BEC. So bike based or car based immobiliser? Or dosent it matter? Will SVA inspecter look for
Thatcham approval or is this just for insurance purposes?
Cheers peeps!
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jos
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 04:05 PM |
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Nope he wont look for thatcham approval.
I dont think a kill switch will be acceptable either.
If I were you i'd fit the steering lock & key and immobiliser for SVA and modify the secuirty arrangm,ents once your passed & on the
road.
.: Motorsport / motor racing circuit / track wall art Apex Traxs :.
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jos
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 04:05 PM |
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Removable steering wheel is not acceptable as an anti theft deivce IIRC
.: Motorsport / motor racing circuit / track wall art Apex Traxs :.
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Aboardman
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 05:00 PM |
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i had the standard steerling lock and a kill switch behind the dash and he was happy with that.
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chriscook
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 05:20 PM |
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I have a battery cut-off and an imobiliser. The SVA inspector had to check the immobiliser worked as everything apart form the immobilser is
disconnected by the kill switch.
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 05:36 PM |
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For SVA you only need one anti theft device and a steering lock is acceptable.
The ign key does not count unless it opperates the steering lock.
Some SVA centres accept removable steering wheel some dont.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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iiyama
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 06:02 PM |
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The only reason Im asking is that the Sierra doner I have had a broken steering casting that holds the icnition switch. Sourced another but
unfortunatly its slightly different and the ignition barrel wont fit into it. So was gonna cut all thats left of the ignition barrel housing off the
old unit and of course this will cock up the steering lock!
Hence my idea of immobiliser and battery cut off switch.
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stevec
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 06:07 PM |
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Thank you BKLOCO for confirming only the Column lock and key is sufficient, I was starting to doubt what I already thought. All I have is the Sierra
column lock and ign. key.
Steve.
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Pezza
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 06:40 PM |
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afaik a cut off switch is acceptable as one of the two secuity options.
My sierra column is bare of the sterring lock as i've fitted a paddle shift system and removable wheel, so hoping to get away with keyed
ignition and fia battery isolator.
You couldn't pwn your way out of a wet paper bag, with "PWN ME!!" written on it, from the "pwned take-away" which originally contained one
portion of chicken tikka pwnsala and the obligatory free pwnpadom.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 24/7/06 at 09:39 PM |
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Mine passed at Exeter with 2 forms of security - 1, the steering lock - 2, the ignition switch - coincidently both operated by the ignition key!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Mike S
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| posted on 25/7/06 at 03:22 PM |
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I know it won't change anything, but why is this an SVA issue?
Anti theft is not a safety thing, it doesn't have sharp edges (mind you an alarm might exceed the noise limit) so why SVA. Or is it that the
insurance companies want it?
If its an anti theft device thats needed, surely a crooklock or wheelclamp would do wouldn't it?
In reality, after putting the effort in to building the car, most people will try and ensure that the scumbags can't nick it. Just don't
see why its an SVA issue.
Regards
Mike
There are more horses' asses in this world than there are horses
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GeoffB
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| posted on 25/7/06 at 04:38 PM |
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This is The one i Wanted an answer to earlier.
Iiyama, im in the same boat as you with no steering lock and no ignition barrel,
What i am going to do is fit my three position ignition lock on the dash( you can take the key out in postion run and Not run)
and hide a cut out switch under the dash that cuts feed to the doomesday type switch and starter button
that should cover the two forms of immobilzer..
three position switch cuts feed to the Blade Starter relay
Cut out switch cuts out feed to the doomesday switch..
Hope this is ok for the SVA..only time will tell
Ps
Hiya Mike S..
How you doing with your GT1..I must come over to see you again
U2U me your number again
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iiyama
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| posted on 25/7/06 at 05:49 PM |
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Think Ill try and do away with a key/ignition altogether. Go with a bik immobiliser and an FIA type battery isolation switch/key on the center
console/dash.
Hopefully that'll do the trick.
Might for the hell of it use a removable wheel as well.
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 25/7/06 at 06:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike S
I know it won't change anything, but why is this an SVA issue?
Anti theft is not a safety thing, it doesn't have sharp edges (mind you an alarm might exceed the noise limit) so why SVA. Or is it that the
insurance companies want it?
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Just don't see why its an SVA issue.
VOSA's stated aims are:
*Improved road safety
*Protected environmental standards
*Reduced vehicle crime
Which is basically what the SVA covers. Main reasons for veehicle crime reduction are a) Vehicle crime costs the economy, and b) stolen cars are
usually driven extremely dangerously and likely to cause more injury than a few sharp edges
Hope this helps 
Matt.
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 25/7/06 at 06:46 PM |
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The SVA manual DOES NOT say that you need 2 forms of ant theft device.
It quite clearly states that in addition to the normal "Ignition" switch it must have a permanently fitted anti theft device.
Nowhere does it say that that the ignition switch has to be key opperated.
In the reasons for failure it only talks about the anti theft devive being "not fitted" or "not conforming".
It does NOT mention the "Ignition" switch at all in the reasons for failure.
Therefore a simple FIA Battery kill switch with removable key and a push button ign. switch will comply.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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iiyama
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| posted on 25/7/06 at 08:53 PM |
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Happy days!
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