whitestu
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 12:20 PM |
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Q Plate
Hi
Just had a call from local DVLA office after sending my build declaration.
They tell me that I must have a Q plate as the donor was registered as scrapped [the council took it away for free and this was one of their
conditions].
Does this sound right?
I'm not really bothered about whether I get a Q or not. As far as I know there aren't any disadvantages.
Cheers
Stu
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iank
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 12:24 PM |
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I believe that is likely to be correct. If you want age related you need to keep the donor sorn'ed.
Can't see the reg when driving anyway so who cares. It's been suggested that it might reduce resale value a touch, but I've not
seen any evidence.
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 12:36 PM |
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I think you also only need to pass the smoke test at MOT time on a Q plate... Rather good news I think..
Dan
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JoelP
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 12:53 PM |
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hellfire cast the smoke test into doubt recently, saying emissions tests actually go by the sva readings printed in the v5.
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Guinness
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 01:01 PM |
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My age related V5 has just a blank space next to the emissions part. Guess that's visible only?
Mike
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andyps
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 01:10 PM |
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Council condition was that I declared mine scrap too. I seem to have forgotten to do that though so it is still SORN
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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whitestu
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 01:20 PM |
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Barnet council insisted on me sending them the V5 so I couldn't escape!
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awinter
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 01:54 PM |
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They dont test the emissions on mine as it says visible smoke only. Q plate
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 02:45 PM |
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Joel, I think what I actually stated was;
MOT Emissions Testing
The MOT tester will take the age of the vehicle from the registration plate and also assume that this is the date on which it was first used.
A - If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your
age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the
age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to
its age and NOT the vehicle registration number.
B - If your vehicle has a CURRENT/NEW plate or one that is after 1st August 1998, you will get a ‘basic’ emissions test, which is a basic check
conducted to set limits carried out BEFORE the ‘CAT’ test. If you pass, GREAT. If you fail though you’ll be subject to a full ‘by-the-book’ CAT test,
plus remember that if you fail this you’ll also fail the MOT. Of course there are plenty of CURRENT/NEW registered kits running around with
reconditioned engines so in this instance you will have to prove the age of the engine to the MOT tester. Ideally you should have a copy of your SVA
MAC ‘pass’ certificate, which will be sufficient. Otherwise you will have to get a letter from the engines manufacturer stating clearly what year the
engine was made.
C - Cars with a ‘Q’ plate are regarded as being of uncertain age so therefore will continue to be subject to the visible smoke test.
Phil
[Edited on 25-8-06 by Hellfire]
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wilkingj
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 04:59 PM |
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DVLA Kept my MAC certificate when I registered. Should they have done this?.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 05:01 PM |
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Yep, they certainly do. You could have photocopied or scanned it if you wanted it as a keepsake.
Phil
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pajsh
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 08:28 PM |
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I think you can get around it if you want.
I bought my car half finished, guy had already scrapped the donor and all he had was the Vin plate.
A letter and £18 got me a new V5 that I declared SORN until I registered the car.
The I sent the V5 off and scrapped it again.
I used to be apathetic but now I just don't care.
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alister667
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| posted on 25/8/06 at 08:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Joel, I think what I actually stated was;
MOT Emissions Testing
The MOT tester will take the age of the vehicle from the registration plate and also assume that this is the date on which it was first used.
A - If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your
age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the
age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to
its age and NOT the vehicle registration number.
B - If your vehicle has a CURRENT/NEW plate or one that is after 1st August 1998, you will get a ‘basic’ emissions test, which is a basic check
conducted to set limits carried out BEFORE the ‘CAT’ test. If you pass, GREAT. If you fail though you’ll be subject to a full ‘by-the-book’ CAT test,
plus remember that if you fail this you’ll also fail the MOT. Of course there are plenty of CURRENT/NEW registered kits running around with
reconditioned engines so in this instance you will have to prove the age of the engine to the MOT tester. Ideally you should have a copy of your SVA
MAC ‘pass’ certificate, which will be sufficient. Otherwise you will have to get a letter from the engines manufacturer stating clearly what year the
engine was made.
C - Cars with a ‘Q’ plate are regarded as being of uncertain age so therefore will continue to be subject to the visible smoke test.
Phil
[Edited on 25-8-06 by Hellfire]
At my SVA my engine had to be tested as 1999 engine (CAT etc). I was given a Q plate, but the same limits as I had to meet at SVA appeared under the
special notes section of my V5. On my last MOT my car was failed for emmisions - because I didn't have my rent-a-cat fitted.
Now this is Northern Ireland, and I think we all know my feelings towards the DVLNI, and the fact that they seem to have even less sense than the
DVLA counterparts on the mainland! But I did ring up and argue this with one of the tester trainers in Belfast. No luck.
Q plate does not *always* mean MOT visible smoke test only.
I think the SVA folks are trying to stop the rent-a-cat system.
Cheers
Ali
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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andyps
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| posted on 26/8/06 at 10:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pajsh
I think you can get around it if you want.
I bought my car half finished, guy had already scrapped the donor and all he had was the Vin plate.
A letter and £18 got me a new V5 that I declared SORN until I registered the car.
The I sent the V5 off and scrapped it again.
When you say he had scrapped it do you mean that he declared it scrap to DVLA? If so, what was the time period between the declaration and the
re-registering?
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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