DavidM
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| posted on 1/10/06 at 09:06 PM |
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Mind where you work on your car.
Just been shown this.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2005/50016--c.htm
Looks like you can fix your car by the roadside only if you're not doing it for money, the neighbours don't object, it' s because it
actually broke down, and it's within three days it of breaking down.
Something else where they could slap a fixed penalty on you, and then leave it for you to prove your innocence.
Won't be able to breath soon.
David
Proportion is Everything
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Simon
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| posted on 1/10/06 at 09:16 PM |
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Yet more ways for Gordon Brown to fill his coffers!
ATB
Simon
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Humbug
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| posted on 1/10/06 at 09:22 PM |
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Doesn't look too unreasonable to me - 3 day limit and it only refers to work being done on the road, not your own drive or whatever.
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smart51
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| posted on 1/10/06 at 09:28 PM |
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You can fix a car if it breaks down. You just can't do it if you're paid to do it, either as jour job or if someone says
"I'll buy you a pint if you fix my car". I wonder how it will affect the RAC.
It seems that the law is designed to stop people setting up as a mechanic fixing cars on the road outside their house, which is only fair on the
neighbours.
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TangoMan
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| posted on 1/10/06 at 10:50 PM |
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As I read it, you can still repair a vehicle if no for business or reward (subsection3).
The 3 day rule refers to business or reward so will include the RAC AA etc.
Sounds fair to me. I guess it is to stop people setting up business repairing/selling cars on the roadside.
Summer's here!!!!
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zetec7
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| posted on 1/10/06 at 11:17 PM |
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Sounds fairly reasonable to me (it's the basically same here in BC, Canada) versus the alternative...which is to let slipshod companies start
doing major roadside rebuilds at their leisure without removing the vehicle to a shop, thus taking up parking, endangering others, leaving oil etc. on
the road, etc., all without liability (and guess who'd end up paying to fix those things...i.e. - via taxes?). Just my pair o'
pennies' worth 
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Danozeman
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 05:30 AM |
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Sounds fair to me. If u conk out in your on car and fix it on the side of the road its ok..
I know where theres an escort rs tubo thats just had the engine pulled out and left on axle stands on the side of a main road through my town. Its
been on the go for about a month.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 07:09 AM |
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doesn't sound at all reasonable to me!!!!!!!!!!!
in theory nowt wrong with it, but just more legislation that get us further and further away from the "live and let live" attitude that we
should all live by.
what a load of old bo***cks.
The govenment should eff off and concentrate on bigger things, that it doesn't seem capable of at the best of times.
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irvined
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 07:43 AM |
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"(2) A person is not to be convicted of an offence under subsection (1) if he proves to the satisfaction of the court that he was not acting for
the purposes of a business of selling motor vehicles."
Silly me, I thought it was up to the prosecution to prove ones guilt, not for the defendant to prove otherwise.
http://irvined.blogspot.com
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Peteff
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 08:48 AM |
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There was a guy on the estate down the road from here who put a poly tunnel up in his garden and was spraying cars in it. He could have up to 4
parked on the road outside waiting and he was claiming dole at the same time. It took the council best part of a year to stop him and this would have
made it easier for them.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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smart51
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 09:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by irvined
"(2) A person is not to be convicted of an offence under subsection (1) if he proves to the satisfaction of the court that he was not acting for
the purposes of a business of selling motor vehicles."
Silly me, I thought it was up to the prosecution to prove ones guilt, not for the defendant to prove otherwise.
I wonder if you could chalange this in a court of law? Not that you should have to. Recently "until proven guilty" doesn't seem to
important to the government.
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iank
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 10:26 AM |
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It might be sorted out if there is a sucessful challenge to the 'right to silence' abuse (in the speed camera legislation) that's
going on in the EU court of human rights.
Seems a similar issue in some ways.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 10:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
It might be sorted out if there is a sucessful challenge to the 'right to silence' abuse (in the speed camera legislation) that's
going on in the EU court of human rights.
Seems a similar issue in some ways.
Yep, speed camera legislation is a TOTAL ABUSE of our legal system, which is surely founded on the basis of not requiring people to incriminate
themselves!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 10:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by irvined
"(2) A person is not to be convicted of an offence under subsection (1) if he proves to the satisfaction of the court that he was not acting for
the purposes of a business of selling motor vehicles."
Silly me, I thought it was up to the prosecution to prove ones guilt, not for the defendant to prove otherwise.
I wonder if you could chalange this in a court of law? Not that you should have to. Recently "until proven guilty" doesn't seem to
important to the government.
LOL 
Yep, soon they'll just stick us in prison for just talking about cars at the pub, let alone operating something with an engine.
burn that petrol while it lasts I say, cos our fun days are numbered with Labour "nanny state" in charge.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 10:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
There was a guy on the estate down the road from here who put a poly tunnel up in his garden and was spraying cars in it. He could have up to 4
parked on the road outside waiting and he was claiming dole at the same time. It took the council best part of a year to stop him and this would have
made it easier for them.
My nextdoor neighbour complained to the council about me " revving engines all the time" and "doing paint spraying all the time so
she can't get out into the garden"
hmmmmmmmmmmm
My brother painted his manta shell earlier this year over a three day period.
I started my 7 for the first time, and had to hold the revs up while I set the idle, 4-5 mins max.
Apparently that is enough to warrant a council visit now.
I had a "word" with her and she is a lot quieter about it now.
I pointed out that she starts and revs the hell out of her fiesta every sunday morning at 7 to "charge the battery" when my brother is
asleep cos he works shifts, that her dog barks incessantly etc etc but I don't complain because I am not that sort of person.
I also pointed out what could happen if I did start to complain about the dog etc............................
I then took her some flowers the next day and apologised for making her cry, and suggested that maybe give and take was the best way to go about
living!!!
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retro car restoration and tuning
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DavidM
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 12:08 PM |
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I can think of a number of circumstances where anyone who hasn't got a drive could fall foul of this.
For instance:
Car breaks down on Saturday, so you get it towed home. You live in a quiet side road so on Sunday, you take it to bits to establish the fault. You go
to your parts supplier, because they are open on Sunday until 4, but they haven't got the parts in stock. It's alright though because they
will be in on Tuesday. You get home but as the clocks have gone forwards, it's too dark to put the thing back together, and you work in the
week, so you make it safe and tidy up. Your neighbour, who you argued with three weeks ago on another matter, rings the council to complain. By
Tuesday night when you pick up the parts after work you are already breaking the law, and recieve a fixed penalty in the post 10 days later.
You can of course prove your innocence through the courts, but if still found guilty, which you would be, then the penalty will be much higher.
Another piece of poorly written legislation, as I suspect that, as usual, the people it's actually aimed at will be one step ahead, with no
paper trail leading to them.
David
Proportion is Everything
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DIY Si
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| posted on 2/10/06 at 02:44 PM |
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Great, yet another reason for the neighbours to whigne at anyone who refuses to pay silly money to get their own car repaired.
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