Jon Ison
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 05:01 PM |
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Am I missing somthing ?
Check this thread out, am I missing something ? I don't think so but
prepared to stand corrected ?
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 05:22 PM |
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I don't think you are missing anything!
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 05:46 PM |
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So instead of going to my SVA test in 16 days time ( Ahhh ), I just go out and get a scrap car as the doner and put its vin number on my Viento and
send the V5 back withe a few changes -----
I Wish
Paul
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 05:58 PM |
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I've not read the 2nd page of the thread but it seems there's no telling some people is there!! It seems very simple to me - the car is
incorrectly registered under UK law and is highly likely to require an SVA to be correctly registered. If he wants to buy it and then try and register
it in Germany then to be honest i wouldnt bother trying to put him right any more Jon - let him find out for himself quite possibly the hard way.
I know bugger all about German (or any other European) registration law but would hazard a guess that if its incorrectly registered in the UK, then it
suddenly just doesnt become fine when registering abroad!!
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NeilP
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 06:27 PM |
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At some point the EU and UK laws will converge and you will have to get an MOT immediately after the SVA (or they add in the few missing tests to the
SVA to cover the MOT). It is at odds when my kit's V5 states that it, "May not have been constructed with all new components" but I
won't need an MOT until May 2010.
Thanks heavens for (some bits of  ) stupid British bureaucracy I say - We'd all be thinking a bit differently about kitcar building if they had
to pass a 2008 standard...
[Edited on 25/1/2008 by NeilP]
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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fideel109
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 07:02 PM |
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If the car made on the V5 doesn't match the car (ie Super Seven model with papers of an Escort), it'll be impossible to get the car
registered, even if the car is already registered in the UK (European law or not)
I'm speaking for belgium.
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 07:14 PM |
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The only thing that I know about German Law, is that unlike here, there appear to be no grey areas. It is either right or wrong and if you are wrong.
they get out a really big stick......and they don't mind hitting you with it!
For example; Driving under the influence of alchohol/drugs/whilst too tired, are all treated the same. Mandatory five year holiday. No if's or
but's.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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onzarob
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| posted on 25/1/08 at 08:52 PM |
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Looks like a classic case of 'I got away with it so now it's leagal
Some poor sod will be stung at some point when the paper work doesn't add up.
Stick by your guns
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Peteff
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 09:05 AM |
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German TUV ?
They are tighter on modifications than anyone, how can you claim it is a modified Escort or that the parts are all tested for use on an Escort?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 02:34 PM |
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btt,
what you guys think to the way this is going ?
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iank
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 03:19 PM |
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Stupid is as stupid does.
Someone's going to go for an MOT/TUV and get their car crushed by plod a few weeks later, sad, but at the end of the day people have to take
responsibility for their own decisions.
p.s. you could always try quoting my sig if you want to pour petrol on the flames.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 03:20 PM |
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So if I'm reading this right, what he's saying he going to do & is perfectly legal is take the chassis number of his doner & stamp
it into the new chassis of his kit car?
This would mean the chassis number is now on a chassis to which it was not originally issued, which sounds as much like ringing as anything else
I've heard of.
I'm no expert at all on this but I can't see how it can be legal to tranfer a chassis number from one chassis to another!
P.S. Do i get a prize for the most use of the word "chassis" in a single post?
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iank
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 03:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hillbillyracer
So if I'm reading this right, what he's saying he going to do & is perfectly legal is take the chassis number of his doner & stamp
it into the new chassis of his kit car?
This would mean the chassis number is now on a chassis to which it was not originally issued, which sounds as much like ringing as anything else
I've heard of.
I'm no expert at all on this but I can't see how it can be legal to tranfer a chassis number from one chassis to another!
P.S. Do i get a prize for the most use of the word "chassis" in a single post?
He is, i agree, it is, it isn't, no, chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,
chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,
chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,
chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,chassis,
chassis,chassis
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 03:27 PM |
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Wasnt there a big push a good few years back to get all these "incorrectly" registered cars put right?? If its a Westfield then it has to
be registered as such with the DVLA. I remember the big example used was all the Cobra replicas registered as Jags. I'm sure the DVLA gave a
"grace" period to allow correct registration without forcing a SVA on them
The insurance is a totally seperate matter in my opinion - it doesnt strictly follow that if it says Ford Escort on the V5 that it was declared as a
Ford to the insurance company. Seems like they are confusing the issue a lot on PH there by discussing it.
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 03:42 PM |
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Ok Iank, you win!
As for insurance mabye they wont be bothered what it says on the V5, so long as the car is what the insurance company have worked the policy out for.
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iank
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 04:00 PM |
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The insurance company probably don't care what's on the V5 until you come to make a claim and they start thinking of ways to avoid paying,
at which point they can/will start taking a real interest in correct registration.
There certainly was a year or two grace period for getting your car correctly registered, but it was just after the SVA was introduced. You can still
do it (zilspeed managed) but you need a lot of evidence that the car was on the road as a kit before SVA.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 26/1/08 at 09:53 PM |
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That guy is talking out of the back of his head, he drives a Cateringvan which he hasn't put through SVA (it was registered in 1993) and then
goes on about how wrong sva is as well as the terminal garbage about registration and it not being illegal to ring a car if it's a kit.
Keith
Aviemore
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